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I've got one of the little Ruger compact MKII's in 223 with the 16.5" barrel and ~12" LOP, excellent truck gun. The rifle really fits my Mom and I was thinking about getting her one as a surprise. She already has a 223, so I've been looking at 243's and 7/08's. The muzzle blast on my 223 is pretty noticeable, does anyone here know how bad either of the larger calibers would be compared to the 223? I can load the 7/08 down to suit her, but I'm not looking for a flamethrower.
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Based on my experience with 18.5" 243 and 308's, I'd be betting on a flamethrower with a 16.5" spout. I prefer 20", give or take an inch, when using the 7mm-08 or 308.
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I agree. find a used ultralite with the 20 inch barrel.
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I bought a used Savage once because it has an IOR scope on it and the package was priced less than scope was worth. It was a 300win mag with a varmint contour barrel chopped to 16 inches. Its still sitting in my closet if anyone wants to make an offer.
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Thanks, I appreciate the responses.
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Based on my experience with 18.5" 243 and 308's, I'd be betting on a flamethrower with a 16.5" spout. I prefer 20", give or take an inch, when using the 7mm-08 or 308. I had a 308 Savage Scout cut to 17". It looked like a 202 Flash when you touched it off, IE a BALL of fire.
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I had one of the compact Laminates in .308. It was LOUD.
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For some reason the campfire motto is shorter is better. I cannot see any barrel shorter than 22" on a big game rifle.
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20" is not too much of a boomer when burning 40-45gr of powder, but I'd not want it with more case capacity. My father has a 20" 350RM and is running 60+ grains of TAC. He claims it is a lot louder than our 20" guns in 7mm-08 and 308.
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For me, things do not get "loud" until you go shorter than 18"...
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I have a 20" 223 and it is too loud. My 204, 22-250AI, and soon to be 6.5-06 all have 24" tubes. The 7mm-08 is no speed demon to begin with.
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I have a 20" 223 and it is too loud. My 16.5" is plenty loud, but it's just so handy to toss around the pickup or cab of a tractor. Went coyote hunting one night with a friend, after I shot his response was something along the lines of "What the h*ll was that?".
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CFVA, sounds like you already have the answer you need. Nothing wrong with a short bbl if it is strictly a hunting rifle and you want it to be handy. A shot once in a while at critters will be OK....maybe not fun, but OK.
If the thing is intended to be shot a lot for hunting, practice, or fun, go with with a heavier rifle with a longer bbl.
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my wife's Ruger compact with a 16 1/2 inch barrel works fine, a little load.
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I've got one of the little Ruger compact MKII's in 223 with the 16.5" barrel and ~12" LOP, excellent truck gun. The rifle really fits my Mom and I was thinking about getting her one as a surprise. She already has a 223, so I've been looking at 243's and 7/08's. The muzzle blast on my 223 is pretty noticeable, does anyone here know how bad either of the larger calibers would be compared to the 223? I can load the 7/08 down to suit her, but I'm not looking for a flamethrower.
Thanks. .............CFVA,,,,,,,Whether a 16.5" barrel length, an 18", a 19" or a 20" barrel length it is still gonna be loud. Ear protection should always be worn on the range and in the field regardless of tube length. Because your Ruger compact fits your mom well, it appears that you have already evaluated what would the best rifle OAL which your mom can best handle. If a 20" to 24" barreled rifle (40" to 44"-45" of OAL) with a longer LOP is something she won`t be happy with where comfort, manuverability and handling are concerned, then any additional noise levels could be a moot point with her. From my experience and as you are aware of as well, the Ruger compact @ 35.5" OAL is excellent handling and is an ideal carry around rifle/truck gun. I have owned a Ruger Frontier MK2 for 6 years. But as with anything including compact rifles too there are trade-offs. While your mom may gain the ideal OA rifle length that best suits her with a Ruger compact, she will also need to deal with some higher noise levels. Has she fired yours yet? If not, then she can and should without you exposing the surprise. If she feels ok firing your 223, then go for the 7/08 Ruger compact. My hearing is still excellent after all these years because I have always have worn good protection even when hunting whether it be convenient or inconvenient. If it`s any consolation where extra noise is concerned, here is a link showing the identical Ruger Frontier as mine with the same chambering. Compared to mine, the 7/08 should be a puddycat. www.gunblast.com/Ruger_FrontierRifle.htm
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I like the 20" length for a short & handy rifle. I just bought a Browning X-Bolt Micro-Hunter in 7mm-08, 20".
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i have 7mm-08s in 18" and 20". i like them both.
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I've got the Ruger compact in .308 and it is kinda noisy and does pop the shoulder a little more but I wouldn't trade it for nothin. It's a shooting little SOB
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I've got one of the little Ruger compact MKII's in 223 with the 16.5" barrel and ~12" LOP, excellent truck gun. The rifle really fits my Mom and I was thinking about getting her one as a surprise. She already has a 223, so I've been looking at 243's and 7/08's. The muzzle blast on my 223 is pretty noticeable, does anyone here know how bad either of the larger calibers would be compared to the 223? I can load the 7/08 down to suit her, but I'm not looking for a flamethrower.
Thanks. I have the exact rifle you are asking about in 7-08 Rem. I LOVE it! It is an absolutely fantastic little rifle. I do not consider it to be any louder than most any other hunting rifle I've shot. It certainly is much quieter than my .264 Win Mag. ;-) I've never thought it to be an excessive flamethrower either. Interestingly, my chronograph shows that the drop to the 16.5" barrel only lost me just barely over 3% of the velocity figures given in the manual.
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