I got to field-test two Eliminator III's, both 4-16x models, extensively in October. First was on a .308 with 168 match ammo, and it maxed out at 800 yards with the dots, but I was able to go out to 900 using the reticle and 1000 with one complete turn of the elevation dial.
Then used it on my 6.5-06 with 140 Berger VLD's at 2950. Hit pretty easily at 1200, and got a dot-reading at 1350, though did not shoot that far.
There'll be a complete write-up in AMERICAN HUNTER in maybe 3 months, with more details about optics and other tests. Suffice to say it works really well. The .308 test took place on a ranch in Texas where they teach field-shooting, and is also a testing-ground for military shooters. Every one of the instructors was impressed--except for one guy who said he preferred dialing. I pointed out that you can dial with the E-III too, and he didn't say anything.
“Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck
I very interested in the concept and curious as to whether the original Eliminator or II would be a good scope as well? Reason I ask is the price is about half that of the Eliminator III and I think I could live with the 4-12 as opposed to the 4-16. Also any comparisons against the BUSHNELL and the NIKON Rangefinding scopes ? Thanks Craig PS ,I have only tried a friends Handheld rangefinder and found it difficult to hold on target steady and get a reading. Seems to me the rangefinding scope would make it easier to hold on your intended target?Comments or observations on this ? Thanks Craig
Hi Ernie,was thinking 800 yards max with with a 300 Winchester and 500-600 max with either a 243 Winchester and 270 Winchester. Dont know about the rifle for sure but some choices are a Tikka superlight in either 270 Winchester or 300 Winchester ,A Remington 5R in 300 Winchester or of all things a Remington 7600 243 Winchester ! The last one because I already have it and it shoots less than an inch with everything I put through it. The others would have to be purchased . I used to handload but dont enjoy it anymore so will be shooting strictly factory loads. Will be used for deer out in agricultural fields in Arkansas. Deer up to 250-300 pounds with so called average bucks going 150 pounds. I am 53 and have been deer hunting for over 40 years and for the most part have hunted in a manner where I have killed most of my deer at 150 yards and less with a few killed at over 350 yards however would like to become proficient enough to make clean kills at longer ranges when they present themselves and like the idea of a rangefinder and scope all in one,less to carry in the field. I also want a scope that will be good for early morning and late afternoon shots. Thanks Craig
Combo of the ranging capability and the scopes internal capability depending on conditions and the drop of said rifle. in my review I could laser the 700 yard target, but I had exceeded internal drop capability of the scope itself. With a flatter cartridge I probably could have got to 700-Maybe.
OK Ernie. You know I got to thinking about some things and there is more than a good possibility that I may have been too optimistic in my desire for range. I think that maybe I could be satisfied with a mere 600 yard ability ! Of the cartridges I mentioned would any of them exceed the internal capability of the scope itself? With optimum Factory loads of course as I realize there are loads with low velocities and BC. 243 with say Winchester Ballistic Silvertips or a load with a VLD bullet at over 3000 FPS,270 Winchester with either 130 or 140 grain Ballistic tips or VLD at over 3000 FPS or in the Winchester a factory load with the a max at over 3000. I am so used to killing deer at 150 yards and less that the 600 yard range would probably seem like shooting into next year for me ! I see that they offer several different versions with the 38 Reticule and the 1/3 dot reticule for example (Think I said it right) and also offer one that only works at the highest power and another that works at any power. As well as a 3-10 ? Whic reticle and model (other than the E-III Would you recomend for 600 yds and less ? jeez I am starting to feel like I owe you a consulting fee as i am asking you so many questions ! LOL Thanks Craig
Craig, No problems. I help a number of folks getting started at distance. We all had to get help from someone at one time or another, and we just pass it on when the occasion presents itself Without getting on the site to remember model #'s, the 4-12 I have would work fine for 600 yard shooting with the set-ups you describe. I will get specifics to you tomorrow hopefully.
![[Linked Image]](http://www.hunt101.com/data/549/medium/IMG_1373_3_.JPG)
