Home Forums Lever Action Central Lever Actions - General Good Lawd! Why didn't y'all tell me how much my Marlin 45/70 kicks?

Refinished a 70's vintage 1895 and took her for a trial run with factory ammo...shot high and the recoil was very reasonable. Reloaded with 350 grain Beartooth loads & 46.5 grains of RL-7. Folks I have owned and shot a 700 Classic in 338 that did not kick that much! Also shot a 458 a few times that did not kick as much as this lightweight levergun!

I posted in this forum about how it was shooting high with the 45/70 factory "reduced" load and it seems she still is. Started out with 45.0, 46.0 and 46.5 grains of RL-7 and the groups kept shrinking as I increased the load. I am sad to say that the 46.5 grain load is her preferred load, by far.

I do love this rifle though...she's the half moon buttplate, square lever variety. Oh yeah...that lever does a number on my right middle finger too. Dang she's a handful! But, like some women, the pretty ones usually are!

HAHA Try it in a guide gun

Stp those up to a 500gr and torch it off.That will get your attention.

Digger, I have a Guide gun, and it will kick.

Saddlesore, I loaded up some 540 grain Hardcasts with enough H322 to go about 1550 fps.

It gets your attention. But, that .45-70 would be one of the last rifles I would get rid of, there's something about it that has me hooked. I just don't shoot extended sessions with it.

To recover, I hunt with my .243...(grin)

You might google up "Sir Isaac Newton" and familiarize yourself with some of his pithy laws like "For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction".

He was pretty smart for his time..........

Ohh, I was quite aware of Sir Isaac Newton's laws.......I just had to see for myself....

I've been married for 32 years to the same wife...I am fully aware of Isaac's law...

You do realize you can take that long case and fill it plumb

full of fff and a greased bullet ,compress it down and you will

get about the same results as you will with smokeless.

With less kick in some rifles.

Bob

Non recoilpad 4570s are mean bustards!
I found out the hard way too....a whole new critter over those modern pussycats!

I shot the 350gr Buffalo Bore factory rd out of mine and yea it kicks lots more than my 338 Win Mag/250gr does!

Because you wouldn't have listened.

My 450m XLR kicks a bit with 400g Speers

My son will not shoot more than 5 rounds at a time

Snake

ouch... I put a limbsaver on my 1895 and it helped, but that may ruin the looks of your gun. Once again... ouch.

A Win/Rem factory loaded 405 grain slug in 45-70 will likely run around 1,230 fps and be pleasant to shoot. Hot rod it up another 500+ feet per second and yes, it will get your attention. The more powder or lead one runs out the front, the more umph there is delivered to the rear.

Those factory rounds though should handle anything in North America with ease that gets within 150 yds up through buffalo and and the biggest of bear. No sense in beating up on ones self. If one really wants a hot rod, go to a 257 Weatherby or something similar.

I've hopped up my Guide gun a bit (405's doing 1,750 fps), and I do warn those that want to give it a try. It's not something I would hand to a virgin shooter either. All I've been around have been amazingly accurate too. I could probably push that slug up to around 2,400 fps, but I have no desire to be on the receiving end with the Marlin. I've got a 15 lb Sharps I'll use for that.

What was your velocity? That's a light load....Out of memory,I load 53-56 grains of RL-7 with the 350 North Fork and Woodleigh for 2095 fps with the Woodleigh and 2100+ with the North Fork, both pressure checked.

I use 46-47 with the 425 grain cast for 1850 fps'ish.Do you no the velocity?

I use Winchester brass with the North Fork and Starline with the Woodleigh, there is a big difference in capacities for 45-70 brass.

Jayco

I shot a Guide Gun in 450 Marlin just one time. The recoil was vicious and painful. No thank you.

Sherwood

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The real problem is that you're shooting at target(s) / sighting-in.

Point that puppy at a running animal and touch it off, though - you won't feel a thing.




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That's the beauty of a 45/70, no need to run it at warp speed. I could cast bullet and 28grs of 5477 will do anything I need one to do.

Never understood the hell bent for leather loads.

Selective hearing lost, Past Recoil Shield, Past shooting gloves and more foreplay will get you by.

'Cause you don't seek your manhood in the amount of pain you can lie about enjoying?