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Originally Posted by ppine
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thanks. The wonders never cease.



....I was being sarcastic

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The stockholders make the profit. Toyota stock is traded on the NYSE just like Chrysler's or Ford's.


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So was I.

We have a severe balance of payments deficit. We export raw materials and import finished goods. It matters which companies benefit, not just who is on the NYSE.

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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The stockholders make the profit. Toyota stock is traded on the NYSE just like Chrysler's or Ford's.


toyota is a Japanese company. Their headquarters is in Japan. Where does the money go? Easy answer. Japan.


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The stockholders make the profit. Toyota stock is traded on the NYSE just like Chrysler's or Ford's.


toyota is a Japanese company. Their headquarters is in Japan. Where does the money go? Easy answer. Japan.


Exactly. Japanese companies don't put up factories over here to build cars in this country, so America will make money.

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Thank you.
People speak with their wallets even more than they do with their votes. Every time you buy something you have the potential to benefit your local economy and American companies rather than the Asians. I can't figure out why this is a such a foreign concept to so many people.


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I can see that it goes right over your head.

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Piss off. I have been driving American trucks for 40 years.

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Originally Posted by ppine
Piss off. I have been driving American trucks for 40 years.


Define American trucks.


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For reference


2012 article

NHTSA

If you don't care for the NHTSA, another source but not sure about the accuracy. For instance, quite a few Ram and GM fullsize are assembled in Mexico yet it reads US produced. Same for parts, engines, trannys, etc.

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Originally Posted by thin_man

For reference


2012 article

NHTSA

If you don't care for the NHTSA, another source but not sure about the accuracy. For instance, quite a few Ram and GM fullsize are assembled in Mexico yet it reads US produced. Same for parts, engines, trannys, etc.

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There's 2 ways of looking at "American Made"

1-Manufactured and assembled in the US, I don't think there is a new truck out there that is 100% American made in this regard

2-Made by an American company who sees the profits on said vehicle upon it's sale.

I think ppine is talking about the latter.

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Ford, Chevrolet or Dodge Ram. Jeep.

I agree with Thin Man.

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Originally Posted by ajmorell
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For reference


2012 article

NHTSA

If you don't care for the NHTSA, another source but not sure about the accuracy. For instance, quite a few Ram and GM fullsize are assembled in Mexico yet it reads US produced. Same for parts, engines, trannys, etc.

Kogod


There's 2 ways of looking at "American Made"

1-Manufactured and assembled in the US, I don't think there is a new truck out there that is 100% American made in this regard

2-Made by an American company who sees the profits on said vehicle upon it's sale.

I think ppine is talking about the latter.


Agreed, but I think Swift was alluding towards the former. I currently comply with both which is owning a Ford.


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the "heartbeat of America" crowd cracks me up.

Trust me, if I could feel good about a GM product, I would.
But I guess we're all allowed to have different views based on experiences and expectations. No harm in that.


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Originally Posted by ppine
Piss off. I have been driving American trucks for 40 years.


I've got you beat, so that must mean I can tell you to go [bleep] off; but I won't.


I saw a movie where only the military and the police had guns. It was called Schindler's List.
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Not hearing great things about the '08 and on Fords. Not sure why, but $19 000.00 engine swops are becoming pretty popular, many with less than 150-200k miles. Lots of theories being floated, including oil contamination from EGR, but the main complaint being bearing failure, usually with very expensive sounding knocking noises. Good friend of mine whose been a Ford guy all his life is rethinking things, after having had a 6.0 blow up on him, and now his '08 with 170k miles do the same. He's been changing oil every 5k miles. He loved his 7.3's, and even the V10's he had were reliable.


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