Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles .284 Win or .358 Win or the Bob??

I'd still do a 250AI, as big as I ever need for deer. Focus? Foc you....

But he do have a M70 so I guess a Roberts or 25/284 would work great.

Aren't you still hunting midgets though?

The 25/284 with 100g is on my list of more chit I want but don't need....

.358

The Roberts has potential...GFY

Actually I like that a lot.

Doable is a short action?

Roberts would be great in the longer/short action Winchester.

I'm trying to figure out how I could argue in favor of the .284, but keep coming up empty. The .358 seems to be a clear choice, given your current rifles and hunting conditions.

These are deer we are talking about, right?

25/284 is the Roberts on crack. No deer is safe.

Yep, but I can't come up with a decent reason to add a .284 to his current mix of shootin' sticks. No doubt a .358 is overkill for deer, but there were only two choices.

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Big gnarly Adirondack deer, which are clearly tougher than the average.

To be fair, black bear season overlaps with WT here. Often bears are targets of opportunity, and can run 300+ pounds.

I say build a .44-.223 Thumper ...

I'd sell the Freakin' bolt action and get a proper still huntin rig, like a 336, 94 or 760.

Originally Posted By: Mule Deer

"The 7x57 needs at least a 3.1" magazine, but the .257 was designed as a 2.8" overall-length cartridge from the get-go, and works fine in a short action. I have owned a bunch of them, and 2 right now, and the supposed "advantage" of a long action with 115-120 grain bullets amounts to about a 2% (theoretical) increase in muzzle velocity, or about 50 fps with heavier bullets, which means zip in the field. In reality thye variations between different barrels will be that much.

I have always been able to get 2900+ with 115-120 grain bullets even from the short actions. The published +P data will do it these days. If extra velocity means that much to you, why not just get a .25-06 or .257 Weatherby? Those will get a LOT more velocity out of a long action than seating the bullet out on a .257.

The other factor is that standard .257 reamers (and all factory ammo) are set up with a throat for 2.8" ammo. You can get the throat lengthened, but why? Get a .25-06 and an extra 150-200 fps without leaning on the poor little Bob."

Steelie's got me thinking....and the Roberts has panache...

I've modified the title accordingly..

I like the .358 Win. It's overkill for deer, but I'm just fond of it. Put a 1/12 twist Douglas #3 at 21" on the action and stick it in an Edge stock. Should come out around 7lbs with a Leupold and DNZ or Talley's.


....or go .243AI with a fast twist in a light contour in an Edge.

You don't need no more stinkin' 7mm's....

I could like a 7lb .358 all up.

Well shoot, now you're under-gunned.

See the quandry I'm in?