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Cocadori,
I can tell you are an experienced horse hand by your humility. I would ride with you anywhere.
This forum is a good example of a place with many challenging people and it is an oppotunity to develp thicker skin and learn to tune out those with lots of attitude and little skill.
Mules are smart. Many of them have learned to dog people and act old and slow. I traded for a mule that had been ridden a lot by kids. She was broke but had been jerked around and was pretty slow. After a few weeks of rides with spurs, a quirt and the use of the end of my mecate, she was permanently livened up. Putting a handle on her took longer. In the end she was a superior trail animal. Flat trots, the big extended walk, and she could walk down trails that horses slid down. Many people lend animals that are broke but slow. They are safer for the average newby.
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Cocadori,
I can tell you are an experienced horse hand by your humility. I would ride with you anywhere.
This forum is a good example of a place with many challenging people and it is an oppotunity to develp thicker skin and learn to tune out those with lots of attitude and little skill.
Mules are smart. Many of them have learned to dog people and act old and slow. I traded for a mule that had been ridden a lot by kids. She was broke but had been jerked around and was pretty slow. After a few weeks of rides with spurs, a quirt and the use of the end of my mecate, she was permanently livened up. Putting a handle on her took longer. In the end she was a superior trail animal. Flat trots, the big extended walk, and she could walk down trails that horses slid down. Many people lend animals that are broke but slow. They are safer for the average newby. Well said!
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Cocadori,
This forum is a good example of a place with many challenging people and it is an oppotunity to develp thicker skin and learn to tune out those with lots of attitude and little skill.
And this is directed at whom?
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Bone structure, feet, angles, Long pastern area, mind and heart. Yep I said it... I LOOK at the long pastern AREA... wonder why...? PPine, Thanks, would enjoy ridin' with you and learning somthin' new!
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Bone structure, feet, angles, Long pastern area, mind and heart. Yep I said it... I LOOK at the long pastern AREA... wonder why...? Wow..dude...
never said I want long pasterns...infact just the opposite. I said I look at the long pastern area. You know there is a long and a short pastern....?
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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Good looking horse there, Cocadori!
My boy is only 15 hands, but lightning quick and stout as they come. He and all of our horses go barefoot year round. If I'm going somewhere with rough rocks I can put boots on him, but if I don't he just walks a bit more careful. Both back feet are white and they wear just like his black front feet.
Thanks for sharing!
Ed
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Hey thanks! I'll put hte tape on him and see how tall he is tomorrow. Just got hit with an impressive storm!
Doode JWP.. I look at the LONG pastern area to see that the pony isn't coon footed or to much slope in that area.
Short is good. Not too up and down and not too much slope. sheesh....
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White hooves in the front on a horse in rough rocky terrain would give me pause.
We shod him yesterday.. these feet are tough as nails regardless of the color... There is no factual basis to 100% support that white feet are always softer. not softer, but white feet tend to have thinner hoof walls.
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Doode JWP.. I look at the LONG pastern area to see that the pony isn't coon footed or to much slope in that area.
Short is good. Not too up and down and not too much slope. sheesh�.
You could have said that to start with which is correct, but that is not what you said. You said LONG then denied saying it and then admitted saying it and now have gone full circle
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White hooves in the front on a horse in rough rocky terrain would give me pause.
We shod him yesterday.. these feet are tough as nails regardless of the color... There is no factual basis to 100% support that white feet are always softer. not softer, but white feet tend to have thinner hoof walls. That is the general consensus.
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Doode JWP.. I look at the LONG pastern area to see that the pony isn't coon footed or to much slope in that area.
Short is good. Not too up and down and not too much slope. sheesh�.
You could have said that to start with which is correct, but that is not what you said. You said LONG then denied saying it and then admitted saying it and now have gone full circle Look JWP, I said I look at the long pastern AREA. It is still there for you and everyone else to see it says AREA. After you wanted to know things I look for in a "moutain breed". I look at the AREA. Because I am looking for something specific. Actually less of something specific. I never denied saying it I actually admitted it. YOU read it wrong or twisted it in your mind.
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White hooves in the front on a horse in rough rocky terrain would give me pause.
We shod him yesterday.. these feet are tough as nails regardless of the color... There is no factual basis to 100% support that white feet are always softer. not softer, but white feet tend to have thinner hoof walls. That is the general consensus. Might be a consensus. However, it is fact? I'm asking here because I'm not sure myself OR if it is factual or not. Many here would pass on a white footed horse regardless of what other fundamentally positive attributes it has. In my opinion that's a shame. Throw on a good set of shoes, even pads hit the trails and have fun.
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Wonder if diet has more to do with it than anything? Bought my grey horse when he was 7 or 8 ,some of the thinnest walled crappy grey hoof you would find. Never had anything to nail to and always pulling chunks off when they didn't hold. 10 years later his feet are close to perfect, even hoof wall and plenty to nail to. Shoes hold tight even after being on over three months! Just my observation one one horse.
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I could lean that way for sure.
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There seems to be some evidence that exercise on rough ground toughens up the feet over time also. Pulling the shoes in winter and letting the hoof wall flex can be helpful.
Some people even advocate adding rocks to your turnout rather than taking them away to toughen up feet. Ride em on rough ground to get them ready for more of it during hunting season.
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It is a fact. Doesn't mean they have to have thin walls, but if a horse is wearing white soxs you owe yourself a look.
Ever notice the King Ranch never had a pony working their place with white feet?
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Well I have many many to trim this year. Maybe I'll start keeping track of black and white feet to see where they are at...black thin walls, white thin walls, soft vs hard. I never paid much attention to the true numbers. Most of ours are on rocky, hilly terrain that is in our turn out/pasture sections. There was nothing that jumped out at me that had me leaning hard one way or the other. Sorta piques me interest now.
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My paint has crappy feet and they're white. If I don't want problems I keep shoes on year round and and reshaw every 8 weeks. This horse would never make it in the wild.
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Doode JWP.. I look at the LONG pastern area to see that the pony isn't coon footed or to much slope in that area.
Short is good. Not too up and down and not too much slope. sheesh�.
You could have said that to start with which is correct, but that is not what you said. You said LONG then denied saying it and then admitted saying it and now have gone full circle Look JWP, I said I look at the long pastern AREA. It is still there for you and everyone else to see it says AREA. After you wanted to know things I look for in a "moutain breed". I look at the AREA. Because I am looking for something specific. Actually less of something specific. I never denied saying it I actually admitted it. YOU read it wrong or twisted it in your mind. The hoof is below the pastern and the ankle is above the pastern, so the "long pastern area" is the pastern
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Texas is a state that clings to its folklore. The people in the Hill Country still talk about the juniper (cedar) that traveled on the backs of cattle coming from Mexico, when in reality it is a result of protection from fire.
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