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I've always had better luck with a slightly faster powder and 150s. Love the H4350 for 165s and 180s though.
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Necromancing, indeed. Nearing necrophilia.... ![laugh laugh](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif) Ahem. I believe I ran 58.5 grains of H4350 'neath a 165 TTSX for ridiculous accuracy in a budget "bespoke" Marlin X7L. Mid-to-high 2,800's, if memory serves. FC
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Keep reading about guys running loads quite a bit over book max, apparently due to antiquated pressure cutoffs given for '06... think I'll start with the aforementioned charges for now keep a bookmark that it's okay to cautiously proceed upward from there as long as I watch my pressure signs closely.
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I’ve loaded 59 grains of IMR 4350 with a 150 Partition for forty years at factory length. This load has shot sub inch in a half a dozen rifles. If I truly had to get down to one caliber, I think it would be a 30-06. I love me an 06!
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With the 150 TTSX BT, I've seen better accuracy in three pre-'64 Model 70 .30-06s with H4895 than one of the 4350s. Granted, the 4350s are better for heavier bullets.
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Am I the only one who finds the Tsx shoots better closer to the lands, like 5 thousandths off? Every rifle I shoot them in shoots well with them just off or even a kiss of the lands. Absolute total BS that they "need" to be way off the lands. MM Necromancing this thread after finding a few boxes of 168 grain TSX and, miraculously, some H4350 in stock. Have yet to load for my .30-06, but here's where I'm intending to start: -One group at each: 54.5, 55.0, 55.5 grains H4350 -Federal 210M primers -Seating depth set to match the COAL of factory 168 grain TSX ammo that my rifle shoots right under MOA What changes would you make to my process? I load 59 grains H-4350 behind the 168 TTSX
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I used 55.0gr with the 168TSX in my 06 it did very well.
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Great hearing all these replies- after winning the lottery today, I've got this weird paternal feeling of responsibility to make sure the components are used as effectively as possible.
168 TSXs out of the '06 are definitely a solid "anything in NA" load. Killed my Nilgai bull last year with the Remington HTP Copper factory stuff I'm using as a template.
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I’ve loaded 59 grains of IMR 4350 with a 150 Partition for forty years at factory length. This load has shot sub inch in a half a dozen rifles. If I truly had to get down to one caliber, I think it would be a 30-06. I love me an 06! The 150gn Partition is a great match with the .30/06. While is is not as sleek as many newer options and the velocities quoted by users are all over the place, it is a great bullet that is utterly reliable on deer sized animals. I have been very happy with it and also shot some really tight groups using it.
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150 grain Tsx, H4350 and the '06,,,,
56-59 grains, yes? That would be a light load in the '06 case. If you are using a modern bolt action in good condition loads up to 62gn would be usual ground for this bullet weight. You may also like to try Winchester 760 if you have some as this works very well with 150 grainers. There will be very few animals this bullet would be ill equipped for.
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150 grain Tsx, H4350 and the '06,,,,
56-59 grains, yes? That would be a light load in the '06 case. If you are using a modern bolt action in good condition loads up to 62gn would be usual ground for this bullet weight. You may also like to try Winchester 760 if you have some as this works very well with 150 grainers. There will be very few animals this bullet would be ill equipped for. +1 for 760. H4350 is pretty slow and Barnes bullets are long-for-weight given their copper construction. You might be crunching a lot of powder to get to the velocity you're looking for. Just depends on what works for you. 760 is more dense and perhaps a bit faster burning.
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I load 59 grains H-4350 behind the 168 TTSX [/quote] Same here.[/quote] same here
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Bumping this with a range report. Was getting north of 2900 FPS (2945 average) with just 56 grains out of my '81, 24" Model 70 Supergrade. No pressure signs of any variety, nice rounded primers. Got a tight MOA group with 55 grains, but it opened up to 1.5 MOA at 56. 56.5 grains is next on the list when I get back to my press
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59 has worked great for me.
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I’ve loaded 59 grains of IMR 4350 with a 150 Partition for forty years at factory length. This load has shot sub inch in a half a dozen rifles. If I truly had to get down to one caliber, I think it would be a 30-06. I love me an 06! ^^^^^^ I agree ^^^^^^^
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I load 59 grains H-4350 behind the 168 TTSX Same here.[/quote] same here [/quote] Same here, great load!
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59 has worked great for me. What kinda speeds are you getting? Might be that my chrono was off or something but 2950 with 56 grains seems fast.
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59 has worked great for me. Is that a compressed load? Barnes lists a max of 55.5 with 97% density for the 168 TTSX. No pressure signes?
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I think the charge has a lot to do with which batch you have. 55 grains behind a 150 in my rifle has very flat primers. 56and the bolt gets very stiff. My old Sierra manual shows 56 as max load. Edk
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