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If you want to learn about HITS go to Hornadys page.
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Better yet, I'll get with JeffO right away to catch up on cluelessness.
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Any more neato charts and grafts?
It will be nice to replace shooting and killing critters with just reading about it.
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Alexander Arms came up with the 6.5. They also came up with the 50 Beowulf. However the 458 Socom has just as much power and uses 45-70 bullets in reloading. Bill Alexander made a mistake on both IMHO. Trying to hold on to the 6.5 priority, and not necking down the 50 Beowulf to 458 caliber. The 6.5 is now SAMII speced as of 2012. So anyone can make the barrels and ammo for it now.
Remington came out with the 6.8 based on their old 30 Rem cartridge that fell by the wayside to the 30-30. But they didn't keep the priority to it. After reviewing all I could, I think the 6.5 is a better round. I also think the 458 Socom is a better round (for reloaders) because the 450 Bushmaster uses a slightly smaller bullet than the 458 and if you use 458 bullets in the 450 they have to be resized slightly smaller which is an extra step in the reloading process.
I also think if I can come up with the money, that the 300 Blackout is another good caliber to have. Good short range cartridge and it can use a silencer with subsonic bullets. For longer range the 6.5 is the way to go for more knockdown than the 223 can offer. Then for a big thumber the 458 Socom. That would cover just about all bases except long range magnums, with 4 total uppers. Throw in a 22 LR conversion kit and you should be able to take anything in North America. I can tell you that Bill didn't come up with the Grendel. It was brought to him... and then tweaked a frog hair and renamed to suit his tastes for names.... but it doesn't really matter.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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And so the libetal anti gun trolls have arrived. They patrol multiple forums with multiple screen names pretending to be hunters. Then attack all things AR whem hunting comes up.
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I am sitting here scratching my head wondering who you are referring to? Certainly not rost495 or Rancho Loco.
Eat Fish, Wear Grundens, Drink Alaskan.
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I'm betting I've killed more critters with my AR than SanCalChartHunter..
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And so the libetal anti gun trolls have arrived. They patrol multiple forums with multiple screen names pretending to be hunters. Then attack all things AR whem hunting comes up. That's funny. rost' has probably forgot more about AR's than most of us will ever know.
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Maybe, I don't know. But I do know that I respect both you and rost495 post. Niether of you are even close to being trolls.
Eat Fish, Wear Grundens, Drink Alaskan.
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SanCal'
I just noticed you are in Pine Valley, CA. Way back when in the late 1980s was stationed in Coronado and used to go shooting/camping out your way, a few miles east of Pine Valley at Kitchen Creek.
Is that area still open to shooting?
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There was a little ice cream cone joint in Pine Valley we would partake of fairly regularly.
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SanCal'
I just noticed you are in Pine Valley, CA. Way back when in the late 1980s was stationed in Coronado and used to go shooting/camping out your way, a few miles east of Pine Valley at Kitchen Creek.
Is that area still open to shooting?
USMC? Coronado?
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Did a couple tours there at the Naval Amphibious School, aboard the US Naval Amphibious Base.
I was teaching Marines (and a few SEALs and Rangers) how to call in and adjust Naval Gunfire.
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It was good duty. We did our classroom stuff at Coronado, and our live-fire training at San Clemente Island.
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I can imagine, I used come down regularly from Ft Irwin to Coronado to dive on our one weekend a month off. Coranado was a great place to get away to.
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I might be wrong, but I seem to remember atleast till early 90's Security Force's was stationed there too.
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Maybe, I don't know. But I do know that I respect both you and rost495 post. Niether of you are even close to being trolls. Actually I do troll. But for fish....
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Frosty burger is still there but the shooting spot at kitchen creek is closed. At least i hope it is because otherwise this dumbass is going to the desert for no reason. The navy brought me to the area but i was navy.
Last edited by SanCalPigHunter; 07/01/13.
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rost495 that makes you a troller, not a troll!
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