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Hello,
I recently acquired a nice old .500 BPE and ordered the book "Shooting the British Double Rifle", but don't have it yet. Besides, I would rather here of modern day shooting experience and reloading techniques for the rifle.
Any assistance you can provide would be very much appreciated.
Thank you,
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Welcome Bill !
Lots of us over in the BPCR forum load and shoot very similar cartridges. I'm sure you can get lots of coaching and steering from the crew.
Sounds like you're in for some FUN !
Greg
Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain
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Welcome Bill !
Lots of us over in the BPCR forum load and shoot very similar cartridges. I'm sure you can get lots of coaching and steering from the crew.
Sounds like you're in for some FUN !
Greg Anudder blackpowder recoil freak
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Campfire Kahuna
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Actually, the original .50 express load (lighter bullets) will kick less than your .45 tossing those Moose skewers.
NEAT cartridge !
GTC
Member, Clan of the Border Rats -- “Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.”- Mark Twain
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Go over to the Accurate Reloading Forums under Double Rifles and or go to Cal Pappas' website. You'll learn a lot there.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Perhaps be the "Express" was related to hitting like a train. Get 550+ grains of slug going 1200 or 1300 fps and aim it at a line of 25 one-gallon water jugs. A hot rod 300 win might do 3 or 4, while even a 45-70 will punch through 23 or 24.
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My nice old H & H Royal Sidelock in 500 BPE. .512 bullets weighting 440 grains going 1900 f/s. An old India Tiger gun, with Maharaja provenience. Factory records state it was born on Nov. 28, 1898.
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A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Some pics of the engraving and color case hardening done right Top file cut rib. Bottom Jones Lever: Left with gold cocking indicators: Wood inletting looks like the wood was poured in place. Right
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PD: The name on the plate says it all!
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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My nice old H & H Royal Sidelock in 500 BPE. .512 bullets weighting 440 grains going 1900 f/s. An old India Tiger gun, with Maharaja provenience. Factory records state it was born on Nov. 28, 1898. That is a work of art! I hope you get it in the field often. Very nice!
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I am just the current caretaker of the Holland. For shooting, I take a Cogswell and Harrison 450 3 1/4 BPE. The factory letter states that this was born on Oct. 12, 1897 and sold for 33 guineas. At 8 lb, 14 oz, it shoots 300 grain bullets @1900 f/s to point of aim at 50 yards. Left.: Greener cross bolt: In original condition Or I shoot a 26" barrel Trulock and Harriss of Dublin 450 BPE the same loads. The prior owner shot warthogs, impala and baboons in Zimbabwe then returned to Hawaii and sold it to me. [img]http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd41/HawaiiPD/IMG_0952.jpg[/img]
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The BPE that would interest me is the 577. With smokeless conversion loads, the 577, with a 650gr bullet at 1,700 to 1,850 fps, still generates enough energy to qualify as a modern-day dangerous game rifle. It would be awesome to take a Cape Buff or Elephant with a 115+ year old safari rifle.
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Resurrection of this thread is a curious coincidence. In 48 hours we begin our plane flights to Namibia. One of our party will be hunting with a very nice 1895 MacNaughton double 450 BPE. It very much resembles this MacNaughton: http://www.hallowellco.com/james_macnaughton_hammer_sideloc.htmMore details furnished upon our return. --Bob
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