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She needs to stop teachinh and start doing porn. That she cant let everyone know how db she when she is just moaning

I've always wanted to be a surveyor, likely my love for the outdoors and math. How often does one get to combine math with the out of doors.

I majored in Physics in college, before lust tore me away from those pursuits and I entered into 15 years of public service. EMS/Police/Fire. Even switched my Reserve MOS to Military Police from Forward Observer. 15 years was all I could take due to extreme cynicism.

Given my math background, I got into surveying real easy, and dealing with ticks, snakes and poison ivy was a whole lot more predictable than dealing with the general public.

Of course, if only you could eliminate the animosity caused by land and money amongst family and neighbors, it would be great.

Frankly, surveying a thousand acre Christmas tree farm, and camping on the site, is about as close to deer camp as work can get.

Being able to convert slope measured chains to horizontal feet in order to retrace a 150 year old survey, while drinking coffee in a tent = good times!

There are a few more ways to do that. Population ecology is one that I like.

I retired from the Arkansas Highway and Transportation Department as a State wide Survey Crew Chief. In that time I did a lot of different types of Surveying from New road location to Bridge Surveys to collecting GPS Data. Started when using chains and doing calculations by hand (no calculators) and finished up using total stations and data collectors and GPS. I fought and lost the battle of the need to teach the older ways of doing things so that the young people could see why we did certain things the way that we did them. I predict that there will be future problems with design and construction because of the simple fact the things will be overlooked because the younger generation will have never learned the simple reasoning of why certain data is needed and how to get it correctly. Now I am not condemning the new methods but I do think that there are steps in the learning that are being skipped that will come back to bite us. miles

That is a problem which is epidemic in countless areas of science, engineering and probably many other general fields of work.

Like, how to recognize a well cap on the adjoiner, when you are subdividing lots to make sure each one has a potential septic drain field...

I'm not defending our illiterate, our failing education system, or fools shown in the OP, but in the US we test everyone. You think China tests everyone? How many rural illiterate peasants and factory drones in China show up on their "test scores"?

Yep. discipline, self control, and work ethic.

On the averages, kids are getting softer and lazier. And lets not forget, kids are just a function of the parents & teachers.

There's more, but I dont feel like ranting.

Common Core is worse than that. It is full on brain washing!!! People that aren't aware of what's going on should damn well get educated. This is more of changing America from with in.

As that venerable scribe Helen Thomas said & I quote,"This country's going down the toilet!".

Algebra courses have become calculator/computer operating courses. This deprives students of brain training that goes beyond just getting an answer.

Oh, the stories we could tell...

I had a guy on a survey once, the day after he set the corners for a tract of land I was going through his field notes and I noticed an odd traverse going into one of his corner sets. The traverse was going close to line then turned about 270* for 25 feet then 90* for 15 feet then they set the corner. When he got back in that evening I asked him why he put in all the additional points. He told me that the corner fell inside of an old building that was being used a woodshed. I didn't see in the notes where he tied the building so I naturally asked if he tied it. He responded with "You didn't tell me to tie it."

Yes, it's just fine if ones billion $$$ mission crashes into Mars as long as he/she can eloquently explain why.

I can remember receiving some credit if one layed out their logic and simply made a math error, but the correct answer carried about 2/3 rds of the weight.

On another note, a college prof buddy brings his class out for a spring field trip each year. He equips groups of 4 students with a hammer, stakes, chaining pins, a 300 ft tape, and the needed dimensions and challenges them to lay out a square acre. I've not seen it successfully accomplished yet.

Yup. Actually the girl (woman) in the vid was trying to support the idea of understanding rather than simple rote memory (which isn't a bad thing in my opinion). If a person truly understands something, generally, in communicating their reasoning, that person will discover their own errors. That said, rote learning does have its place as well.

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"why is it 12, why do I know that?"


cause you'd be ridiculed as a dumbazz if you didn't!


jhc, hold up 4 fingers, do it again, now once more with feeling!


omg! there's your sign.

As a math prof I demanded both understanding and execution.

I assure you the "understanding" she's hawking is as much about making things easier as it is about real understanding.

I'd hear people say all the time 'I'm never going to use algebra', perhaps not. As you alluded to, algebra (or any math) helps one develop analytical thought and ability. It truly pays dividends in many other ways, but that has nothing to do with 'American Idol'

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