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What kind of accuracy are u guys getting with your pumps? What is acceptable and should be expected? I got a 7600 in 35 Whelen topped with a leupy vx1 3-9 and loaded 3 different bullet makes and 3 different powders in various weights. Nothing shot worth a damn! Pretty much all groups were 3-4"!!! Gonna try some different powders with some mild to mid grade loads and see if they are any better. Also gonna try to switch out the scopes and see if that may be the culprit but I doubt it. Anyway just asking what to expect from a pump and maybe what loads u guys have found to work in them?
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Way back when I was a young lad a 760 3006 was my first "big game" rifle. Back then ignorance was bliss. I didn't handload, didn't know that different bullets would shoot differently and most of all didn't much care. I put a scope on it (don't rightly remember what kind but probably a Bushnell Banner 3-9), bought some 165 grain corelockts sighted it in and went hunting. Thinking back now and a few times since then it was probably 2 - 3 inch groups. Didn't even know to let the barrel cool between shots. Then the accuracy bug bit and I read that a bolt action was king so even without giving it a fair shake it got sold.
A buddy of mind still has one and the best I've ever saw him shoot it is around 2 inch groups but he still hasn't been bitten buy the bug so it probably could do better with some tweaking and a better scope.
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How are you shooting it off a bench? Have owned several and still do, most shoot very well. Some take a differnt rest or contact point for bench work. Have owned 5 down to 2 all have shot under 1.5" with little work. 1 7600 270 Win, 1 760 06 , 1 7600 06 , 1 760 35 Rem rechambered to 35 Whelen, large chamber, & 1 7600 35 Whelen.
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1.5"-2" is the acceptable norm for these. Not that it's impossible, but I've rarely seen one do better. The culprit is the barrel to receiver fit is not known to be the strongest design and induces weird flex and harmonics that are hard to overcome.
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I have been through a lot of them. The last time I put my 760-3006 on paper I was testing loads. It put three Barnes 130 grain TTSXs into an inch with 51.5 Varget. Then it put three more into the same inch with 52.5 Varget. Then it put three more into the same inch with 53.5 Varget. My 7600-243 also shoots into an inch. I sold a 7600-243 that shot an inch and a quarter. I've had two 760s in .308 that shot an inch.
If I had one that shot over 2 inchs I'd be finding what's wrong.
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How are you shooting it off a bench? Have owned several and still do, most shoot very well. Some take a differnt rest or contact point for bench work. Have owned 5 down to 2 all have shot under 1.5" with little work. 1 7600 270 Win, 1 760 06 , 1 7600 06 , 1 760 35 Rem rechambered to 35 Whelen, large chamber, & 1 7600 35 Whelen. I was using a Sinclair rest and a Protector rear bad bag. Shot groups using the forend resting on the bag then once I seen how bad the forend contacted the barrel I tried setting the front of the magazine area on the rest so the pump just hung there. Same results. I'm going to try some " most accurate" book loads with a few more powders and see what happens. Tried RL 15, Varget and H380 with the 225 sgk's, partitions and Acxubonds as well as 250 partitions. Roy
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1.5"-2" is the acceptable norm for these. Not that it's impossible, but I've rarely seen one do better. The culprit is the barrel to receiver fit is not known to be the strongest design and induces weird flex and harmonics that are hard to overcome. +1 I have a 2 7600's, a 30-06 and 35 whelen. I also have a 760 in a 308 and all 3 guns are 1.5-2" shooters all day long. I have tried many different powders and many different bullets and I have never done any better than 1.5". For what it's worth, my 35 whelen likes 200 grain Hornady Interlocks over 52.0 grains of Varget. Another load that worked very well was a 250 Grain Nosler Partition over 49.0 grains of H4895.
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I have a 760 in 308 Carbine. My first rifle. Shoots in the 1.5" neighborhood.
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I have been through a lot of them. The last time I put my 760-3006 on paper I was testing loads. It put three Barnes 130 grain TTSXs into an inch with 51.5 Varget. Then it put three more into the same inch with 52.5 Varget. Then it put three more into the same inch with 53.5 Varget. My 7600-243 also shoots into an inch. I sold a 7600-243 that shot an inch and a quarter. I've had two 760s in .308 that shot an inch.
If I had one that shot over 2 inchs I'd be finding what's wrong. Same experience here with SEVERAL M 6s & 7600s. Using diff. powders than Miles. 1-1/2" - 3" is not acceptable TO ME and I have never had any problem getting 1" - 1-1/4" accuracy. My 35 Whelen in 760 , yes 760, was a custom ream job by a reputable smith. IMR 4320 was the powder 'back then'. PUMPS are no diff from bolts--when it comes to loading. Either find the lands OR load @ SAAMI COAL and use the same powders that work well in other cals/cartridges.
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I have several 760's and 7600's in 270, '06, 35Rem, 358W, 35Whelen. All will shoot less than an inch with their favorite loads. A couple of them will even do that with the green box stuff. So I would first suggest trying a different scope.
Two of the most accurate 7600's are the 270 and the 35Rem Carbine. The short stiff bbl of the carbine is amazingly accurate with two of three touching consistently at 100yds.
The 270 will shoot 150gr Speer SPHC into 3" at 300yds consistently. But put some Winchester 150gr PP in it and you get patterns at 1ooyds instead of groups. Load 130's in it and you might be lucky to get 2" at 100yds.
They seem to like certain loads so you might have to do lots of experimenting. In 35W (and 358Win) one of the most accurate bullets I've found is the Sierra 225 SP followed closely by the 220gr Speer, 225gr Accubond and the 250gr Speer. I use mainly R-15 and IMR4064 but IMR3031, IMR4320, and H4895 will work also.
Keep trying different things like setting your COL out a little further. I load for one Whelen that likes the 200 gr Hornadys with lots of copper showing under the cannelure.
Good luck. When you find the sweet spot she will surprise you.
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My cousin has a 760 i believe. It's chambered in 6mm, and i've seen it shoot 1" groups with factory rem ammo. I saw him explode a tweety bird off the 100 yd post at the range with it. Personally i've shot a few 760's/7600's 243,35 rem, and a few '06's and as i remember most shoot around a 1" 1/2 and one around 2"
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FIL has a 7600 in .270. I hand load for him, and I've seen his 70 year old eyes pop 3/4 inch groups at 100 yards. I believe they use same barrels as the model 700s. In capable hands, they almost always give you moment of deer accuracy, and then some.
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My son has a 760 30-06 that's very accurate. I have a 7600 7mm-08 that's not as accurate. We've found they don't like Uncle Bud's bull bags and I use a "sausage" type bag on top of my rest. The type with side wings seems to cause problems by gripping the forend. I have had good results by placing my hand on top of the front rest and holding the forend. If the trigger is spongy try a trigger job.
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My son has a 760 30-06 that's very accurate. I have a 7600 7mm-08 that's not as accurate. We've found they don't like Uncle Bud's bull bags and I use a "sausage" type bag on top of my rest. The type with side wings seems to cause problems by gripping the forend. I have had good results by placing my hand on top of the front rest and holding the forend. If the trigger is spongy try a trigger job. I had a trigger job done last week as well as a LH safety installed. Also put a quality pad on it. Roy
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my 7600 in 35 whelen will generally produce 1"-1.5" 100 yard 3 shot groups off a good bench rest. I have always used the 250 speer bullet, http://www.midwayusa.com/product/65...358-diameter-250-grain-spitzer-box-of-50 a 215 fed primer, and Ive used these powders best accuracy with these top three, but all six produce decent groups in my rifle, best accuracy generally near 2400fps ww748 IMR 4320 H380H4895 IMR 4064 VARGET
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Bought my first and only pump Rem here at the 'fire, it's an 18" barreled 35 Whelen, chronoed the 200 gr TTSX's up to 2750 fps with H-322 powder, fired a couple sighters centering the VX-3 1.75-6 on target, let the barrel cool down, then fired three into a bit over 1.5". Set her 2" up at 100 yd. and loaded up the rest of the 100 count brass to same, she's ready for fall. Gunner
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Sample size of one: A 760 in 30-06 I have shot a few times will do about 1.5" with 150gr bullets (Hornady and Rem) and IMR 4064. Sometimes a bit less, sometimes a bit more. Putting your hand between the forend and front rest dues seem to help consistency.
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1 inch, factory 260 Rem fodder. 1 1/4 - 1 1/2 inch with reloads. Been a long time since I've shot 35 Remington factory ammo. DMc
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I have a 760 that started out in 30-06. With peep irons and 180 gr. handloads I could regularly turn sub 1". I then had it rebarreled to .375 Hawk with a 2.5x Leuopld compact on it. It now shoots 235 gr. handloads at 2800 fps into 1" if I do my part. It has been death on hogs and a couple of wild cattle in timber.
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I have one and it's one of the most accurate rifles I own. It shoots ragged holes all day long. See if the barrel is touching anything and also check the crown.
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