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Hunt: Banshee $13,000 - Jumping Jack $5000 = $8000 for a propane heater, water tank, etc.
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Waputi: Depends on where you are taking the camper. If you are staying on National Forest roads a conventional pop up is far superior to a Jumping Jack. However, if you tow it on a gnarly 2 track the Jumping Jack has these advantages:
1. Better clearance
2. Shorter over all length. ATVs go on top. Conventional pop up increases length to accommodate a shelf for ATV. This significantly reduces approach angle.
3. More stoutly constructed. For example, the load deck folds out to make the bed supports. There are grease fittings on the herculean hinges. The pop ups I have looked at use a cable system for cranking the top up (don't know if this is true on newer pop ups). If you use a pop up in the snow you will be replacing the cables. If you don't use it in the snow you will still be replacing the cables if you keep it long enough.
4. Better resale value. Older pop ups sell for well less than 50% of new price, Jumping Jack for about 75%. I know Hunt 1 could not find a reasonably priced used Banshee but that will not be the case in 10 years. The cheapest used Jumping Jack I have found is $3500.
I agree with Wap that the JJ is way overpriced for what you get. However, if hauled over rugged terrain it will outlast a conventional pop up. You also have the versatility of pulling out the tent and using it as a utility trailer. Regarding spouce, my wife will tolerate a pop up but loathes the JJ. Come to think or it, that may be a plus for the JJ.
Your mileage may vary.
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Bob, some of the points you make come down to how well the camper has been maintained. My 25 year old pop up has lived 24 1/2 years of it's life in Michigan and still pops up like the day it was new. Canvas was replaced 10 yrs ago but none of the mechanical parts have been touched other than a little routine maintenance.
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I have at one point used about every camper you can think of. The Truck campers, weigh to much, and are hard to navigate. Pop up campers, require a lot of maintaining. Now, I use tipi's that while expensive are a lot less than a camper and can go a lot more places. An 8 or a 12 man can go a lot of places. You can take a big stove for all night use, and if you desire a cot when car camping ![[Linked Image]](http://seekoutside.com/wordpress/wp-content/gallery/tipispre/12man-grizz-1024x764.jpg) If you have horse or goats, they can go as well, and they can still be backpacked
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If a tent is good for you great! There is NO comparison to my wall tents and the new camper as far as comfort and eae to set up. Yes 13k is a good chunk of change but I'm blessed that I make enough. I can now take the kids without having stuff loaded all over and it is ready. I think those saying not enough ground clearance haven't looked at one. It will go about anywhere my truck can go. All I can say is we gear whore, hunters, etc are lucky to have all the great options available. Good luck to those of you heading out elk hunting next week!
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Dang, I didn't notice you were in Abq....wanna let me borrow that thing in late Oct? 
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I built my camp trailer from a 16' Cargo Craft. It has two 36" beds, sink, 21 cu. ft Fridge, roof top AC. The rear bed folds up and both atv's fit end to end. Wherever the F250 goes it'll follow.
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Dang, I didn't notice you were in Abq....wanna let me borrow that thing in late Oct? I drew a first rifle in October and my son has a November youth hunt is why I finally broke down. September is nice but November will be cold! What hunt did you draw?
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Dang, I didn't notice you were in Abq....wanna let me borrow that thing in late Oct? I drew a first rifle in October and my son has a November youth hunt is why I finally broke down. September is nice but November will be cold! What hunt did you draw? I only drew deer this year. 45/Pecos, Oct. 26-30
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Dang, I didn't notice you were in Abq....wanna let me borrow that thing in late Oct? I drew a first rifle in October and my son has a November youth hunt is why I finally broke down. September is nice but November will be cold! What hunt did you draw? I only drew deer this year. 45/Pecos, Oct. 26-30 Pecos are beautiful! Good luck!
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Same to you and your son.
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Waputi: Depends on where you are taking the camper. If you are staying on National Forest roads a conventional pop up is far superior to a Jumping Jack. However, if you tow it on a gnarly 2 track the Jumping Jack has these advantages:
1. Better clearance
2. Shorter over all length. ATVs go on top. Conventional pop up increases length to accommodate a shelf for ATV. This significantly reduces approach angle.
3. More stoutly constructed. For example, the load deck folds out to make the bed supports. There are grease fittings on the herculean hinges. The pop ups I have looked at use a cable system for cranking the top up (don't know if this is true on newer pop ups). If you use a pop up in the snow you will be replacing the cables. If you don't use it in the snow you will still be replacing the cables if you keep it long enough.
4. Better resale value. Older pop ups sell for well less than 50% of new price, Jumping Jack for about 75%. I know Hunt 1 could not find a reasonably priced used Banshee but that will not be the case in 10 years. The cheapest used Jumping Jack I have found is $3500.
I agree with Wap that the JJ is way overpriced for what you get. However, if hauled over rugged terrain it will outlast a conventional pop up. You also have the versatility of pulling out the tent and using it as a utility trailer. Regarding spouce, my wife will tolerate a pop up but loathes the JJ. Come to think or it, that may be a plus for the JJ.
Your mileage may vary.
I wasn't comparing Jumping Jack to a "traditional" pop-up, I was comparing it to a utility trailer and a Kodiak Canvas tent.
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Sounds good. I will check their website for floorplans and options. I don't need an installed shower, but do want the other basics, inc. furnace.
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I fell asleep somewhere in there but this is the one I am looking at next. I found the high axle tent camper to be too cramped and with the lift on it, wiggled quite a bit. Just my experience mind you. It made a great hunting shack for one or two but ended up as lawn art mostly. ![[Linked Image]](http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m70/supercrewd/Hunting%20and%20fishing/IMG_3137_edited.jpg) If I do it again, I am thinking one of these... ![[Linked Image]](http://www.jumpingjacktrailers.com/imagecache/JumpingJackTrailer/Trailer-Modes_01.jpg) No frills and hauls a lot of stuff on top... I think you can park ATV's on top. ![[Linked Image]](http://www.jumpingjacktrailers.com/imagecache/JumpingJackTrailer/Trailer-Modes_ATV.jpg) Its an F'ing tent, on a trailer. Simplistic like me... ![[Linked Image]](http://www.jumpingjacktrailers.com/imagecache/JumpingJackTrailer/JJ-Accessory-65022.jpg)
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Have you checked prices? By the time it's all said and done, that's a $5,000.00 utility trailer and a $1,000.00 tent.
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Pretty much what Puti said. Neighbor down the street has what looks to be a 16ft Starcraft R/T with room on the front for ATV. They use that area for kids bikes, coolers, etc. It has super ground clearance. Didn't pry, but guessing in the 11-15K range.
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Here is my 12 foot toy hauler I made up ![[Linked Image]](http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/P10107711.JPG) ![[Linked Image]](http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/P10107721.JPG) ![[Linked Image]](http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/P10107821.JPG) ![[Linked Image]](http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/P10107751.JPG) ![[Linked Image]](http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/P10107791.JPG) ![[Linked Image]](http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/P10107802.JPG) [img] http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/P10107731.JPG[/img] I can lock her up and stop anywhere and go sleep in it. I use it to haul lawn movers, furniture, ... When not hunting I ordered the trailer with the door and windows, insulated it, and put in a popup heater - all good.
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That's the exact approach I'm considering Spotshooter. I love the idea of a trailer's versatility to be used as a bomber hard-sided tent, a custom interior camper, OR as a trailer to haul things when not camping. They don't cost a fortune, and don't depreciate as quickly as "luxury" toys do. I don't seen any down sides.
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Well, no.
Answer is a little late, I have not priced the Jumpin Jack.
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