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Keep It Simple Tipi Tents The same great wood stove capable tents in a stripped down less expensive package. Let me know if you have a question. Special intro pricing which I'm sure you guys will like. Multi colored tent in the photo is for example only. Same construction quality, same capabilities, a few less features, less cost. What is not to like ? Let me know if you have any questions.
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I'm guessing these will sell like hotcakes!
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Sweet! Do you have dimensions yet?
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Same as our regular tipis just stripped of a few features
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Thanks Kevin! Talking with the wife right now about a 8 man.
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I can dig it... Pretty sure I'll have a 6 man before too long.
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Is the KIS 4 man lighter than the "4 lbs 6 ounces all inclusive" listed for the fully featured 4 man?
As an aside - I see BCSs are no longer available, only the BCS2. Is that permanent?
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To clarify. These are essentially the same tent, and same as our normal sizing. The differences are minimal. They canopy is a few ounces lighter than our standard basic tents, so yes take the minimal weight and subtract about 3 ounces if you use our pole and stakes.
The poles and stakes are optional. You can purchase a pole and stake set, or use your own. We can advise as to what poles will work. Most sporting goods stores sell poles that work well for less than $40.00. The drawback is they are a bit heavier, but usually within a pound of the current pole we use. Even with the purchase of the pole and stake kit these cost less than our standard tents. If you source your own pole, it is much less. In fact, do to the way we do our poles, you could purchase for example and 8 person and a 4 person with an 8 person pole and use the same pole for both. Lots of ways to do it.
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Looks like they are quality products, but $400 for a tipi without a floor???
Are there features that I'm not aware of or not "up" on? What is the material???
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Looks like they are quality products, but $400 for a tipi without a floor???
Are there features that I'm not aware of or not "up" on? What is the material??? Who let the new guy post??? Kevin, what does a CF and aluminum pole weigh for a 6 man, and what do they cost? I guess what I'm asking is, how much weight is going in my pack if I take a 6 man?
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Why yes, they are made from ultralight and very strong materials. The canopy of a 4 person weighs well under 3 lbs. As far as features, they come standard with a sod skirt, a very robust tie out system, dual doors, and storm flaps to cover the zipper. If you compare them to say a floorless wall tent they are much lighter and can still use a wood stove and withstand severe weather. If you compare them to other ultralight weight floorless tipi style tents that are made in the U.S.A I'm sure you will find they are priced very attractively. For example: A big agnes red dirt cabin is almost $1000 and has no floor. It is not made in the U.S.A and is not lightweight https://www.bigagnes.com/Products/Detail/Tent/reddirtcabinThe backcountry barn by MSR http://www.cascadedesigns.com/msr/tents/experience-series/backcountry-barn/productThe weight and price are very good by comparison. They are almost the same tent as our standard tents (minus a couple features), which while very full featured and priced very competitive these are much more affordable. These can be used with a liner or a nest. The nest provides full enclosure much like a floored tent. They are very versatile. Floors, have advantages and disadvantages. Floors can weigh a lot, they get dirty, they can trap water or spillage. In the late fall, or in winter, a floor is more of a problem than a benefit. A simple ground sheet will suffice for most floor usage, and in the case of extreme bugs a nest (or inner tent) will do the rest.
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Dan, the standard SO 6 man with standard stakes and a CF pole is right about 5 lbs. This will be a couple ounces less. The aluminum pole, it really depends on what you purchase. If you buy a Kelty pole, it will add 10 ounces maybe a bit more. If you buy our carbon fiber pole and stake set you should be under 5 lbs. With a standard aluminum pole you should be under 6. If you cut a stick in the woods and take some wood shims for heigh adjustment you should be around 4 lbs.
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Some questions for you shelter makers and users.
What is a sod skirt?
With no floor, guys are left to making a small trench around the perimeter because inevitably the weather will turn and rain or snow will happen. I've never experienced this especially a downpour but I have heard of this phenomenon.
So do you recommend a foot print of some sort or what is the recommendations for keeping your gear and self off the dirt, mud, snow, ice....?
In going lite... A 4 man, pole, guys, stove to heat it and a foot print would weigh?
And cost for same, given the needs of mid Oct. to mid Nov. weather circumstances in MT at altitudes of 6000+ ft. ASL.
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Hi Cocadori
A sod skirt is fabric that hangs down below the tie out. It reduces drafts, can be used to seal the tent against bugs or other debris.
Trenching, can be used, but isn't needed in most areas honestly. If you select a good site, you should be fine. I've had water in a floored tent, where site selection was poor. The ground absorbs water, so often it is better in a floor less tent.
You can use a footprint or ground sheets if you like. They can be material like a plastic painters, tarp, tyvek or a ripstop or a piece of tarp material. Personally, I think a ground sheet or bivy is the better solution. Walk in with your boots on, but keep you sleeping gear clean.
Tent and stove, about 5 lbs , 6 if you take a liner. Pole, footprint etc all depends. It could weigh barely over a pound more, or it could weigh more depending on what you take. Cost depends as well. It could be as low as 650 - 700 new, and could go higher. It would work at 6000 ASL in Montana.
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Some questions for you shelter makers and users.
What is a sod skirt?
With no floor, guys are left to making a small trench around the perimeter because inevitably the weather will turn and rain or snow will happen. I've never experienced this especially a downpour but I have heard of this phenomenon.
So do you recommend a foot print of some sort or what is the recommendations for keeping your gear and self off the dirt, mud, snow, ice....?
In going lite... A 4 man, pole, guys, stove to heat it and a foot print would weigh?
And cost for same, given the needs of mid Oct. to mid Nov. weather circumstances in MT at altitudes of 6000+ ft. ASL. I've been using floorless shelters for nearly 30 years and never have had to trench. As Kevin said it is all site selection. I also have found a ground cloth or bivy a better choice rather than trying to "floor" the entire area. Once you get used to floorless camping you will never want to go back.
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Well.. I think you've all slowly convinced me. Who's got a 4 man with a stove under 6 lbs? cheap... ? I'm no stranger to floorless tents. I pretty much spent the better part of summer and fall in them. They've just looked like this.
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How does a tent of this style cope with condensation?. In a tent with a fly and lots of ventilation, usually condensation can be controlled with a little effort - even if bugs and rain are bad.
In cold weather, these tents look like they would be quite wet.
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Install a liner which turns it into a double wall tent or run a stove which dries out the tent.
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