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interesting direction this thread has gone. I would imagine the level of risk goes up as the hens stay outside longer. wind, rain, storms, cold, etc including predators, breaks in the fence, even contamination from free flying bird visitations bringing disease. the benefits of being outdoors are obvious also.
having worked on a ton of commercial laying and broiler houses, I know keeping them inside all the time is a part safety measure, and part production measure.
we grew up with free ranging layers, and always kept an eye out for cars, wild predators, and domestic dogs, etc, plus having to roam around and pick up stray eggs.
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interesting direction this thread has gone. I would imagine the level of risk goes up as the hens stay outside longer. wind, rain, storms, cold, etc including predators, breaks in the fence, even contamination from free flying bird visitations bringing disease. the benefits of being outdoors are obvious also.
having worked on a ton of commercial laying and broiler houses, I know keeping them inside all the time is a part safety measure, and part production measure.
we grew up with free ranging layers, and always kept an eye out for cars, wild predators, and domestic dogs, etc, plus having to roam around and pick up stray eggs. I don't roam around picking up stray eggs. If you know what you're doing, the hens always lay in their nest boxes. They are protected by a chain link fence around their pasture from stray dogs. In three years, I've lost only one to predators, because I lock them up securely at night after they've put themselves to roost at dusk. The benefits to health and nutritional quality FAR outweigh (not even close) any economic advantages gained by keeping them cooped up 24/7. ![[Linked Image]](http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w188/TheRealHawkeye/IMAG0305.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w188/TheRealHawkeye/IMAG0093.jpg)
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Do you have the required 15-cm of perching space per hen? They look a little tight!
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Do you have the required 15-cm of perching space per hen? They look a little tight! You're only seeing one of three perches on the roost. The top one is reserved for the popular hens.
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kudo's to your system. no complaints here. it reminds me of about 1958. your six or so hens with no rooster in the backyard is a different beast than 100,000 broilers or some 20,000 layers to deal with. carry-on, and be good to those chickies. 
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kudo's to your system. no complaints here. it reminds me of about 1958. your six or so hens with no rooster in the backyard is a different beast than 100,000 broilers or some 20,000 layers to deal with. carry-on, and be good to those chickies. Thanks Gus. Currently, I've got eight hens and one rooster (an Australorp). I just hatched out two chicks in an incubator from him eleven days ago. Not sure of their sex, though. ![[Linked Image]](http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w188/TheRealHawkeye/BabyChicks_zpsb3c9c3a6.jpg) Here's their sire. ![[Linked Image]](http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w188/TheRealHawkeye/RogerRooster_zpsb40cb152.jpg)
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I can't sex a chick either, hat's off to those who can, and do it rapidly.
we always raised rhode island reds and dominiques for the most part. a few white layers, game chickens and bantams sometimes got mixed in when we adopted a flock from time to time. but the rhode islands were the bedrock variety. good for eggs and for meat, and hearty.
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I can't sex a chick either, hat's off to those who can, and do it rapidly.
we always raised rhode island reds and dominiques for the most part. a few white layers, game chickens and bantams sometimes got mixed in when we adopted a flock from time to time. but the rhode islands were the bedrock variety. good for eggs and for meat, and hearty. Yes, I've found that to be the case with RIRs. Great foragers, too. Only drawback to them is that they just won't ever go broody, so you're stuck incubating the eggs if you want more. I want to buy some Brahma hens so I can delegate that job to them. The Brahmas are very much oriented as a breed towards brooding and raising their own chicks.
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there's nothing quite like getting flogged by an old hen while she's protecting her brood.
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Got it all over me, my experience with homemade mayo is it settles out, and gets pretty gross after a few days.
Sorry, Hellmans for me........best foods in the west.
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Got it all over me, my experience with homemade mayo is it settles out, and gets pretty gross after a few days.
Sorry, Hellmans for me........best foods in the west. Make it right and that won't happen. The mayonnaise in my picture was already six days in the fridge. That's all that was left of the original batch.
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Got it all over me, my experience with homemade mayo is it settles out, and gets pretty gross after a few days.
Sorry, Hellmans for me........best foods in the west. Make it right and that won't happen. The mayonnaise in my picture was already six days in the fridge. That's all that was left of the original batch. My dad used to make mayo at home. It was great and lasted just fine. If it's breaking then the ingredient proportions are off or there's an emulsifier problem.
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Got it all over me, my experience with homemade mayo is it settles out, and gets pretty gross after a few days.
Sorry, Hellmans for me........best foods in the west. Make it right and that won't happen. The mayonnaise in my picture was already six days in the fridge. That's all that was left of the original batch. If it's breaking then the ingredient proportions are off or there's an emulsifier problem. I agree.
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Can you make homemade Miracle Whip? 
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Got it all over me, my experience with homemade mayo is it settles out, and gets pretty gross after a few days.
Sorry, Hellmans for me........best foods in the west. Make it right and that won't happen. The mayonnaise in my picture was already six days in the fridge. That's all that was left of the original batch. If it's breaking then the ingredient proportions are off or there's an emulsifier problem. I agree. Or a bad ground. 
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Can you make homemade Miracle Whip? Sure, but you'd need a chemical lab.
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Can you make homemade Miracle Whip? Sure, but you'd need a chemical lab. Some teens just use an old sock.
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36 posts..18 are trh...can we say attention whore? 
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I tryed it 35 years ago, maybe I'll give it another spin.
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Make it right and that won't happen. The mayonnaise in my picture was already six days in the fridge. That's all that was left of the original batch. If it's breaking then the ingredient proportions are off or there's an emulsifier problem. I agree. Or a bad ground. Gotta run it through a Fram filter!
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