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What charge of H110 would you guys recommend under this bullet for white tails under 100 yds from either my 7.5" Redhawk or my short Marlin 1894P?
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Bullet is a 310 gr. WFNGC from a Lee mold. I cast them from wheel weights and lubed them with the old Lyman Ideal lube. I don't feel a need to load them to max, but would be interested to hear what you all consider max load and speed to be and what would good deer capable, mid to upper velocity load would be. I'd prefer to stay with H110 because I'm familiar with it, but also have Unique, Power Pistol and Longshot on hand.

Plinking recipes not requested for this bullet-I have other, more lead thrifty molds for that purpose.

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H-110 is a powder that is not suited for reduced loads the powder works best with little to no air space in the case. I am not familiar with your bullet of choice and have no idea how much case the base of the bullet intrudes into



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20.0gr H110
Fed 155 (Mag LP)
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Seated/Crimped to Shortest OAL (Crimp gr closest to nose of bullet)
Temp: 60 Deg F
Chrono 5 long paces from muzzle

4" S&W M329 --- 1,100 fps

7 1/2" S&W 629 Stealth Hunter --- 1,200 fps

Note: The S&W and a 7 1/2" Ruger Super Redhawk show almost identical fps over the chrono.



All load data same as above except 18.8gr H110 and 70 Deg F

16" Rossi M92 ---- 1,400 fps
Note: 20.0gr might get you another 50 fps

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In my 5.5" Redhawk I ran all the way up to 22.0gr of Win 296 for 1350fps. Its a lot to hold onto but sure to accomplish what you are going for.

I backed down to 20.0gr for about 1100fps. If you want to reign back on the recoil impulse a little more you could try about 18.0gr of 2400. It did about 1000fps for me and should work great for any deer inside of 100yds.

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18.5 grains of H110 or Slow version of WC-820, crimped in front groove so it will fit in my SRH cylinder.

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My bullets are just a shade lighter at 300 gr, but am loading 20 gr H-110 as well with a CCI 350. Would be hard pressed to find something in our woods that will stop one of these Scott.


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I too would not use 110 and go with 11 or 12 grs of HS-6.


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I already suggested the H110 load in the other thread, but 10 grains of Unique would be ideal.

That would be perfect for both guns, meters well in a progressive press and shoots easy. No Whitetail or Muley is going to stand up to it, that is for sure.

I already mentioned it in the other thread, but I will say it again, that is just a NICE looking bullet! smile

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Originally Posted by EdM
I too would not use 110 and go with 11 or 12 grs of HS-6.


If wanting a reduced load I agree with HS-6. As has been said, H110 likes to be run hard.

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Ive used the LEE 300 grain over either 20 grains of H110 or 11.5 grains of BLUE DOT

for hunting for decades, both work, the blue dots a bit slower and a bit more accurate in MY revolvers
http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=44%20Magnum&Weight=All&type=Handgun

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Thanks for the advice, guys. I forgot to mention, I also have Li'l Gun and Universal powders on hand, too.


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I use 21.0grs H110, 9.5grs Unique and 9.5grs AA #2 with my 310gr cast bullets. It's hard to beat AA #2 in my guns for a good all around load. The H110 load is accurate but a real handful from a 4 5/8" SBH and not much fun from my 5.5" Redhawk.


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I noted that multiple folks are recommending charges of H110 loads that are all pretty close (20,21..) .

I had recommended 22 grains, in another thread, as I had experience using that load in Redhawks, as well as my 5.5" Bisley. The heavy for caliber projectiles I have used in the past have ranged from 300 and 305s up to some 320s.

I recall fiddling with gas checks years ago, but gave up on them, unless they came with the projectile.

That range (20-22), with heavy cast bullet, with a wide meplat will penetrate just about anything I can think of that is normally hunted on this continent.

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It's been years since Insold my 44, but just another vote for 21-22gr of H-110. While many of us don't do the same load work on handguns that we do for rifles my early and extensive load work for the 480 when data was scarce taught me the been it of working up an accurate handgun load and that a 1/2 gr change in powder can cut a group in half, or double it. As you increase powder charges you should se groups tighten up, then start growin when you pass the sweet spot.

I've always found lee bullet molds to produce accurate bullets and the 310 gr rf is a dandy. Their 240gr sac also spots well, and stretches ones lead supply

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I too would not use 110 and go with 11 or 12 grs of HS-6.


If wanting a reduced load I agree with HS-6. As has been said, H110 likes to be run hard.


And whitetail at a hundred need no more.


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I've been looking at Hodgdon's data for a couple days now and I agree, HS-6 would seem to be a good choice for mid to upper level loads with this bullet and cartridge. Unfortunately, I don't have any and neither does the LGS.

Looks like time to experiment with the half dozen powders I have on hand and see what gets me what I'm looking for.


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H110 (new W296) likes it one way-all the way! Some others to try-- AA#9, Lil'Gun. Of course, all with magnum primers. Chronograph to see what works well with long/short barrels with the two different guns you have.


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I don't see any point in reduced loads with a 300 grain .44 bullet. If you want a reduced load, go with a lighter bullet.

(My favorite "reduced" load is a 240-250 grain SWC over 17 to 17.5 grains of 2400. It doesn't burn real clean but a single action doesn't care.)

So .. to the OP's question, H110 and Lee 310 grain cast bullets. How much H110 depends on how deep that bullet seats into the case. Max loads for 300s vary from as low as 20 to as high as 22.5. Assuming that bullet doesn't seat real deep into the case, I'd probably start at about 19 grains and work up 22 by half grain increments looking for whatever gives the best accuracy.

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Originally Posted by T_O_M
I don't see any point in reduced loads with a 300 grain .44 bullet. If you want a reduced load, go with a lighter bullet.


Exactly.

Full loads of H110/296 or even 2400...just focus and hold on.

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yea, I forgot 2400 & Blue dot. H4227 for rifle


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