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I absolutely can't stand the 243 Winchester, or those that use it and try to tell all and sundry how good it is. Here in Oz, users call it "the pope", why I do not know. It cannot match my absolute favourite cartridge, the 25-06 in any way, shape or form, but 243 users poo poo the 25's. Cheers. Come to think of it, I've only owned ONE 25 cal. The notorious 257 Roberts. Talk about UNimpressive!! Maybe that's why I went on to better cals. There is a 25-06 & every LESSER 25 cal cartridge IN every 270 W. That was TnC. There is no cartridge I hate. Some I have no use for tho. We should NOT HATE anyone, even if he uses 250 Savage or 45-70.
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I guess I truly don't hate the 308 win. but I really have no use for it. Now if someone gave me a pre 64 in 308 I would use it and be happy. I won't buy another, there are to many 30/06's around to bother with it.
JOC was right. The 270 Winchester on a Model 70 is a great combination as is the 30/06 and 375 H&H
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A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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Happy Birthday Ray !!
Hope it's a goodun!
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Thanks jwall , 49 years today.
JOC was right. The 270 Winchester on a Model 70 is a great combination as is the 30/06 and 375 H&H
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"Give a lazy man the toughest job, and he will find the easiest way to do it"
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I'd have to say the .257 Roberts.
Ive only seen three deer lost in my life, but two of them were lost to good hits from a Roberts ( I watched both through the binocs and would have bet my next paycheck on either)
I am old and reasonable enough to realize its not the cartridge, or probably even the bullet, but simply the luck of the draw. Be that as it may, I cant bring myself to use one...
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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I don't particularly dislike or hate any cartridges. Some I may like more than others or consider more practical. I get a kick out of the people that 'hate' one cartridge but love another with identical ballistics.
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1. .243
2. .223
3. Anything in mm
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One of my hunting buddies hates the .30-06, because when he was a kid a local guy who hunted with a .30-06 ended up being put away as a child molester. That's silly. He didn't know all 30/06 fans were diddlers?
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After consideration and limiting the choice to personal experience, for me, it would be the 7.62x39
When truth is ignored, it does not change an untruth from remaining a lie.
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The 22-250 is my most disliked. It is a 220 Swift pretender without the oomph!
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I suppose that I really have no strong dislike for any cartridge. There are many (actually most if one looks at everything available) that I just do not find a need for. That includes most all the magnums. At 76, I have found that it doesn't take magnums to kill most stuff. The detested , by some, .308 has reached out and touched things for me out to the vicinity of 500 yards. Bullet in and out through the heart- lungs, equals dead after a short run to pump the blood out. I suppose I could still get along with a .257 Wby. or a .264 Win., but nothing larger in a magnum. (Admitting some of the larger ones have valid DG use.)
Kids, ladies, and old farts seem to be able to kill game with less powerful cartridges than young, virile, macho men. It makes me wonder why? It takes a .300 or .338 to kill elk here according to the majority, but the Sweeds take on moose routinely with the 6.5, and South Africans shoot some really big stuff with the 7x57. Then again, I see a good many that say a .270 or 7-08 is good elk medicine. Maybe they have tried it?
Modern bullet technology has put lots of pee wee calibers on steroids making them over achievers. Good fot the bullet makers.
On the other hand there are lots of delivery systems that I detest. Start off with rollover stocks and thumb holes, I once shipped a trio of superbly accurate Anschutz 54 spotters over the rollover stocks.(all they came with back then.) Ariska safeties, any model that uses a protruding magazine, including the wonderfully accurate CZ 527, and such, are also taboo for me. I prefer wood stocks and blue steel, but can get along with stainless and plastic without the described unfavorable features.
Other than that, I'm happy, happy, happy. Jack
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Probably the 300 Win Mag. Have owned and built probably 1/2 dozen and all without a single doubt were the most punishing recoiling rifles I ever had. Even had a bull barrel Mdl 70 that I had the barrel fluted to slightly reduce the weight that kicked more than most. One was a Safari Sako that was beautiful and I really wanted to keep but it just punished me to shoot.
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I really don't hate any. But, over the years I tried a few that others hated, for no other reason than to see why they were so bad. I usually ended up loving them. My second rifle was a 30/06 and I hunted with a flock of .270 users and I took a lot of flack from them about how superior the .270 was to the 30/06. I didn't see a dimes worth of difference but to this day when I see a flashy 700 BDL chambered in .270 with see thru mounts and cheap scopes it makes me want to reach in the back of my safe and hug my old worn Savage 110.
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I really don't care for the 300 Win Mag. I prefer the 300 WSM instead It has great knock down power and my rifle is a shooter...
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NO hate, but I could never warm up to the .243, the .338, the .30-30 or the .44 magnum.
I've always liked the .35 caliber; from the .35 Remington and the .358 Winchester, to the Whelen and Norma.
Too many westerns as a kid in the 60's...I love the .45 Colt
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.30-40 Kraig. It's just ugly. ???
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I have no interest in odd ducks made for leverguns, like the .307, .356, .375BB, etc. that were peddled around before Winchester shut down the New Haven plant. Dittos on "Short Mags" of any flavor, and WSSMs, too. They were dead in the water before the boat sank.
I don't "hate them", I just didn't see the point of them, and still don't. I do... Without them I wouldn't have a cool "Indiana legal" .358 wssm and still have to tote a stupid shotgun.
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I have no use for the 223 or rifles chambered for it.
I like Weatherby cartridges and I can shoot them just fine.
Same with the RUM's........ but not the short versions.
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