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Yes, he will. I'm worried who will replace him. It could get worse. Hopefully not.

I hate to say it, but Hillary might be the one.

Bullcamp and Whiptail...... bullshiz.....

�A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will lose both, and deserve neither� - Thomas Jefferson (but what did he and his compatriots know about government?)

Good luck with that boys! If no one takes a stand at some point, well, no one will.

How's that working out for ya?

So your idea of taking a stand is to trespass and poach?
Or are you going to get into a firefight with an officer of the law?

If I find out the NF I have a tag to hunt elk in November is closed then I'll send my tag in for a refund and won't travel the 2200 miles. I'll also make sure my vote in the next election reflects my disappointment. This is how civilized people behave.

The Constitution is clear - the Fed is not allowed to "own" lands.

Blackbrush, I don't advocate knuckling under to the imperial federal government but I know how the USFS works when it comes to closing off areas. You go cutting gates and destroying govt property they will use that as an excuse to go hog wild and close off huge areas, not just the target area. They need to be dealt with through official channels. Bitch to your congressman and senator.
USFS is always looking for an excuse. Don't give it to them.

Maybe I'm missing your point but it seems pretty clear the United States is allowed to own lands.

Article IV, Section 3
The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States;

http://www.doi.gov/shutdown/fy2014/upload/FWS-Fact-Sheet.pdf

I called the state boys this morning. They said that-

Mark (state guy)"... they are closing National Parks, campgrounds, and anything that has water or electricity..."
Boomy- "..so they aren't shutting down the roads going up into the mountains?"
Mark (state guy)"..no they are not suppose to. They should all be open.."

Anyone that thinks this country can still be fixed by voting is dumber than a sack of hammers.

Today the Idaho Fish & Game said that all federal land is open for hunting. The few exceptions are campgrounds and other maintained facilities.

That is within the context of admitting new states into the union.

Well...... Ok..... I'll write a letter. I'll make a phone call. I sure don't want go out of my way by driving across the country to only have to come back home bc some bureaucrat strung some yellow tape and says I can't ride my 4-wheeler into the national forest...

Seriously? Some people need to wake up. People need to get off their asses. Learn history. We're way past niceties. The vets amongst us know better - those that have seen action that is.

Again, I ask, how's that been working for you? How's it working for the WWII vets that want to see an open air memorial that's in their honor in DC? You can't drive up the hill in SD now to glimpse Mt Rushmore from afar. Well..... ok.... don't knock over or go past a cone.... They might even put more cones up and then what would we do?

We fat lazy Americans won't get off our couches unless we get seriously bit in our asses. I'm not saying I have the answers or know what to do. I just know we can't keep being pussies. It's the definition of insanity.

How bad a bite is it going to need to be for me or any of us for that matter?

Interesting times...

You're preaching to the choir.

Go make that post on the FatRus forum.

Most Are Ready Now.

I won't be locked out or told I cannot access national forest land. Thing are so far out of hand it may take nothing short of determined civil disobedience to begin to take back the government. I have to wonder how much bullshit people will allow this president to pull before saying no more. Most of our elected officials don't have the balls to stand for freedom and the constitution... they're too worried about covering their own asses.

I hope the government shut down is permanent.

take drinking water with

http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=52673

Brilliant.

COLORADO IS OPEN FOR HUNTING

DENVER - Colorado is open for fall hunting with more than 23 million acres of public land that are not affected by the federal government shutdown.

"Colorado is known worldwide for its pristine hunting and fishing areas,� said Gov. John Hickenlooper. "Some federal refuges are closed here and in other states, but Colorado has elk licenses available and hunters are welcome this fall to hunt on other public land."

Colorado is the only state that offers over-the-counter rifle bull elk license for resident and non-resident hunters. The licenses are valid in more than 90 game management units during the second or third rifle seasons. The second rifle season runs Oct. 19 - 27 and third rifle season is Nov. 2 - 10.

Colorado has more than 260,000 elk in the state and hunters are important to help manage those large herds. In addition, hunting provides a $1.8 billion boost to the state's economy each fall. State officials have been notified that National Wildlife Refuges in the state and some military installations may be impacted by the shutdown but those lands make up less than one-half of one percent of the federal land in the state.

"It's unfortunate that hunters are receiving mixed messages from the federal agencies," said Steve Yamashita, Acting Director of Colorado Parks and Wildlife. "While all of the National Forests in Colorado are open, the shutdown has confused sportsmen across the country and we're trying to make sure people get the right information. Colorado is open this hunting season."

Individuals hunting Colorado's public lands are advised that some of the formal campgrounds may be closed or have limited service but dispersed camping is allowed in most areas. Hunters should be prepared to pack out their own trash and bring their own water.

The early snow in Colorado has local hunters excited after several years of warm, dry fall weather. Cold, snowy weather concentrates big game herds and moves them out of rugged areas toward lower elevation winter range. That movement means better hunting conditions.

"Hunting in western Colorado has been tremendous so far," said JT Romatzke, an area wildlife manager for Colorado Parks and Wildlife. "We have had great late-season rains, and bulls rallied to the rut during the last couple weeks of archery season."

Hunters are being reminded that snow can mean muddy roads and cold temperatures. But mud and snow shouldn't keep hunters from venturing out to try their luck. Despite some potentially mucky terrain, Romatzke anticipates a fruitful season.

"We are looking forward to what could be one of the best hunts we've had for a few years," he said. "We just need the hunters to come get them."

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For more information about Division of Wildlife go to: http://wildlife.state.co.us.

So...it would apply to those states that entered the union after the Constitution was ratified? Like 37 of them?

Sycamore