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Bob, as usual, makes a sound point here and I have noticed this more with synthetic stocks, than wooden ones.

I have shot VERY small, rounded groups with the Mannlicher-Schoenauer carbines, in .30-06 and 6.5x55, ( NOT a typo-1961MCA model) that I used to own with the long, thin, forestock rested on the frony just behind the sling bow.

I also found this with the Brno 21/22 rifles, 8-10 in number, I have owned over the years and also my original Type B, Oberndorf,all with typical Euro."splinter" forestocks.

Change to synthetics, and "bounce" happens, especially with my relatively light, thin, Dakota 76-.338WM, shooting 250s. I have usually used my hand under the forestock to aleviate this and this rifle WILL shoot and then there are the other benefits in wet BC, of the Micky "Hill Country" stock.

I also found, long ago, that the various lever actioned pieces I had, Mod. 94s, 71, .336, 64, 1894, Savage 99s, would shoot better and more consistently with the front support under the front edge of the receiver and zero pressure on the front psrt of the rifle.

The most finicky in this respect was the Miroku SRC, 1886-.45-70 I had for about 14 years, one of the first to sell, when I started my serious gun selloff in later 2011. This rifle would NOT shoot and I dicked with it for some time until I found that a minor forestock issue and the placement of the front support would change it to where I wanted it.

A friend, at home in the Kootenays, now has it and is VERY happy with how it puts 405 HC-FN bullets "where he looks". I am not the greatest fan of leverguns, but, these are particularly nice examples of what gunmakers CAN do now, IF, they want to......

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[bleep],

Given "all" your "experience" with wood...I'd be impressed if you could discern a buttstock from a forearm.

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Originally Posted by kutenay
Bob, as usual, makes a sound point here and I have noticed this more with synthetic stocks, than wooden ones.

I have shot VERY small, rounded groups with the Mannlicher-Schoenauer carbines, in .30-06 and 6.5x55, ( NOT a typo-1961MCA model) that I used to own with the long, thin, forestock rested on the frony just behind the sling bow.

I also found this with the Brno 21/22 rifles, 8-10 in number, I have owned over the years and also my original Type B, Oberndorf,all with typical Euro."splinter" forestocks.

Change to synthetics, and "bounce" happens, especially with my relatively light, thin, Dakota 76-.338WM, shooting 250s. I have usually used my hand under the forestock to aleviate this and this rifle WILL shoot and then there are the other benefits in wet BC, of the Micky "Hill Country" stock.

I also found, long ago, that the various lever actioned pieces I had, Mod. 94s, 71, .336, 64, 1894, Savage 99s, would shoot better and more consistently with the front support under the front edge of the receiver and zero pressure on the front psrt of the rifle.

The most finicky in this respect was the Miroku SRC, 1886-.45-70 I had for about 14 years, one of the first to sell, when I started my serious gun selloff in later 2011. This rifle would NOT shoot and I dicked with it for some time until I found that a minor forestock issue and the placement of the front support would change it to where I wanted it.

A friend, at home in the Kootenays, now has it and is VERY happy with how it puts 405 HC-FN bullets "where he looks". I am not the greatest fan of leverguns, but, these are particularly nice examples of what gunmakers CAN do now, IF, they want to......


Thanks for the tips! I will try your method with my Model 71 the next time out.

Have any good ideas on how to make full bore reloads in that rifle topped with 250gr Barnes Originals not make a guy want to yell out OUCH! Every time it goes off? smile


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