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I've been using Break Free CLP as my main cleaner and lube for years without a complaint. I use Butch's bore shine on heavily used/dirty barrels. Many of my buddies use Rem oil.

Aside from copper removers, what are you using as a general cleaner and lubricant?

Anyone using NASA developed X-1R?


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Militech is a fine cleaner and lubricant as well.

As to rust prevention, a few years ago I did a test (clean 10 penny nails in salt water) of Break Free CLP, Rem Oil and WD40. Break Free was the run away winner, WD40 was next, Rem Oil trailed both of them by a significant margin.

I'm not suggesting using WD40 on guns, just happened to have some on hand when I did the test.

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There have been a number of powder/copper solvent/cleaner, rust inhibitor tests published in print and on the Internet over the years. Taken together, the take-home message for me is that all of them work best and none of them work best.

What has worked well for me is Montana Extreme products for bore cleaning. Plain water for removing salt spray and blood. Ballistol for wiping down metal and rust inhibition. ATF diluted 1:3 with lighter fluid used sparingly for lube. This is what it has come to after using more than a few of the products available over the years.

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I've used just about all of the commercial bore cleaners and don't really have a preference. If a bore is really fouled, I use J-B bore cleaner and then follow it with something like Shooter's Choice or Hoppe's.

I then dry the bore and use something like Rem-oil, Kroil, Break-free CLP. Again, I don't have a preference, they all work.


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If you guys are serious about copper removal, NONE of the stated products are worth crap in that regard. Serious Copper/fouling removal starts with Wipeout foam cleaner. For general powder fouling I've used all of the above with some degree of results but I now use Balistol.


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CLP for Cleaning & Rem for Protection. Inexpensive & works for me.

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Barnes has a very good copper solvent, but they need it!

I'm more curious about lube and protect.


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I (cough) inherited about eight litres of the old military formula Breakfree from the Australian Army in the eighties and nineties...it is the old pre-green and clean, and it actually works.

Still using it.


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M-Pro7 Gun Cleaner for lead/carbon fouling. It is the best I've tried, is non-toxic and doesn't smell. It is truly much, much better than Hoppe's #9 in my experience. The M-Pro7 copper remover is pretty good too.

For lube I like Mil-Comm products, either the MC-2500 oil or TW-25B grease depending on application.

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Originally Posted by slg888
CLP for Cleaning & Rem for Protection. Inexpensive & works for me.

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They do not remove copper.


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I am with Jorge on this one. Ballistol smells better than CLP and works as well from what I have seen. Wipeout foam is where it is at brother, even on barrels I thought were clean. The only thing I might add is an occasional pre-swab with Kroil and rare planet alignment appearances of bore paste.


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I have used Remoil once. I didn't think much of it at the time. It is long enough ago that I don't remember why. Of course I used Break Free all the years I was in the service and use it now on my own guns.

I have used several copper cleaners, but have settled on Wipe Out when I can get it. Of them all Barnes was the worst for getting the copper out.

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Originally Posted by JSTUART
I (cough) inherited about eight litres of the old military formula Breakfree from the Australian Army in the eighties and nineties...it is the old pre-green and clean, and it actually works.

Still using it.


Cleaned up a terrible spill, did you? wink grin


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MOBIL 1, 0 to-20 Synthetic. Better than any 'Gun" oil on the market


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Originally Posted by GF1


As to rust prevention, a few years ago I did a test (clean 10 penny nails in salt water) of Break Free CLP, Rem Oil and WD40. Break Free was the run away winner, WD40 was next,

Rem Oil trailed both of them by a significant margin.


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If anyone claims to have had problems with Rem Oil leaking, you can instantly discount their so-called experience because they are just dumbshits who either tampered with the nozzle or else squeesed the bottle or pressed on the valve when they shouldn't have had their finger anywhere near it. On top of that, if they had had the nozzle pointed in a safe direction, it wouldn't have been any big deal anyhow.


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I use:

1) Wipe-Out or Montana X-Treme for cleaning bores.

2) Gun Shield for protecting any metal that needs to be protected, since it lasts years instead of days or weeks.

3) Whatever oil is handy for a very thin lube-coat on bolts, along with a heavy grease for bearing surfaces like the backs of locking lugs, the lumps of break-action guns, etc.


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Rem-oil sucks on AR's, too thin. I like Ballistol spray for AR carriers on the range as it is quick and easy. A quick papertowel wipedown and spray it. Whether it is any "better" I can't say.

I've read the tests that say Break Free is tops at corrosion prevention and my experience indicates the same, but you have to keep re-applying in a wet environment. MD's Dyna Gun Shield is on my list to get.

Wipeout is tops for bores, IMO. Don't put Breakfree in the bore of a precision rifle, it won't hurt anything but it will open up groups a tad until it gets blown out of there.

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To make a more handy oil bottle, take any small squeeze bottle like a nose spray bottle. Remove the top and then pry out the small plastic insert. Drill a small hole in the center of that insert and one in the cap the same size as those little red tubes that come with WD-40 and such.

Cut of one of those tubes a few inches long and press it down own thru the hole you drilled.

With this,you can accurately dispense a drop or woo exactly where you want it or squeeze harder and you can get enough to wet a patch if needed


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