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Wow its been a long time since I posted here. Had to make a new account lol. Anyways, I recently bought a Remington 700VS in .22-250 and i've been wanting to put a muzzle brake on it so I can see that red mist when I pull the trigger <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I've looked at many brakes but I was wondering if anyone could tell me which ones really work well? The 2 I've been looking at the most are the OPS Varminter and Holland's Triple Baffel Brake. Also while I'm asking, what trigger would be good to get thats not too expensive? I've heard good reviews on the Rifle Basix triggers. Thanks for reading.


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Welcome back - I have no experience with muzzle breaks but like my Rifle Basix on my 40X. It was simple to assemble and works well.

I think the correct phrase is ported since the gas vents are meant to keep the muzzle down. Muzzle breaks vent to reduce recoil. This is my thinking and I've been wrong numerous time before. Can someone verify the terminalogy and save me a Google search?

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I have a vais brake and am very happy with it.

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I sent my nib 700 vsf to Holland for Brake , trigger work, over size firing pin and trigger spring kit. The rifle was back in 7 days!! Excellent work and the brake takes out any lift with recoil about 1/2 inch.
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I just put a Vais on a 6-250 works great. Another good brake is www.answerrifles.com they have a pretty nice varmit model. I've got only one Basix trigger just wanted to try it out and it's pretty nice. Well good luck.


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I still love my Browning factory model...

What more to say? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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Thanks for the help guys. I wont be able to afford one for a while (I'm only 17 and not making much money) but I still have another question and will have pleanty more later im sure. Since I can't afford to break in the barrel with ammo what other ways are there? I want the optimum accuracy possible without haveing use ammo to break it in. Any other tips for improved accuracy would be great too. Thanks again.

p.s. I love my Remington factory model. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Sharpshooter,

Who says you have to waste the ammo used to break in the barrel?

Barrel break in is simply a regimen of increased cleaning frequency, during the first hundred to two hundred rounds.

You are going to be shooting the gun to sight it in or to check handloads. You are going to be doing some target practice, or shooting of nasty rodents.!

Some reccomend that you clean the bore after each of the first ten shots, taken while sighting her in, varminting, or hunting. Then clean after every second shot for the next twenty; then clean after each five shots for the next fifty, then clean after each ten shots for the next hundred. Then your bore is broken in; in a manner proven to be as good as any other.

Who cares if it takes two days or two years to complete this process?



While we are on the subject of break in; many authorities have concluded that it is a complete waste of time. The rifles which I have most carefully broken in when new have turned out to be the very worst shooters, for me so far.

I now scrub the bore thoroughly on a new rifle, then shoot it five or ten times and clean it. Shoot it ten or twenty times and clean it. And clean it every hundred or two hundred rounds after that.

I have a couple of magnum class sporter weight rifles, and a 22-250 varmint weight. They each shoot into less than an inch at 100 yds with this treatment after action bedding and a little trigger work.


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Thanks for clearing that up for me. I'll be doing a lot of both target shooting and varminting. This is probably something that i'll just have to find out for myself but about how many rounds can I fire through the .22-250 before it will start to lose accuracy and need cleaning? Is there a huge difference in if the bullets are moly coated or not? Another question, how long should I wait in between shots when target shooting? Esp if using a hot load like the Win 45grain hollow points at 4000fps (cheaper to shoot then the Ballistic silvertips or Rem premier varmints which i'll use when I have more money). Thanks for the help, I really appriciate it.


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I often shot as many as a hundred rounds through either of my 22-250's between bore scrubbing. I never saw a loss of accuracy, when shooting ground squirrels.

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Is there a huge difference in if the bullets are moly coated or not?


There is a thread in reloading game rifles where this subject is presently being discussed. If you read this, you will know as much as I presently do about moly.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads...p;vc=1&nt=5



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How long should I wait in between shots when target shooting?


There are a lot of answers to this question. Basically one must ask, "How long do I want my barrel to last?". Or to put it another way, "How many rounds do I expect to shoot from this barrel before replacing it?"

Some guys never let the barrel on a 22-250 get warm to the touch, they might get 2000 to 3000 rounds out of that barrel. Some fellows burn over 100 rds an hour at a prairie dog town, and you could fry eggs on their rifle barrel. That person will probably have to replace the barrel at 750 to 1000 rounds.

Any load that pushes a bullet to 4100 FPS is a pretty intense load. It will be hard on the throat of the barrel. I have been very happy shooting 60 gr bullets at 3600 to 3650 fps and got pretty decent barrel life.

But back to the point of your question, I do not worry to much about waiting between shots until I have fired the third one. After three rounds, even a varmint weight barrel will feel a bit warm to the touch.

After three rounds, I like to set that rifle to the side for at least ten minutes to cool, perhaps longer, if it is 105 degrees out and the rifle is sitting in direct sunshine. After letting the barrel cool a bit, I will only shoot a couple of rounds or maybe one, before letting it cool again. It depends on how warm the barrel feels in my hand. I try to never let the barrel get so hot that I can not hold it in my hand indefinitely.

I would really suggest that you check out the reloading forums. For the price of a few boxes of shells, you can get all the tools needed to assemble your own ammunition. One can then enjoy the time spent reloading as well as have a lot more ammo to shoot for the same amount of money.

If space is a problem, Lee makes a hand held press. It works well. For many years, I kept everything I needed to reload for three different rifles in a boot box under my bed. I did all my reloading on the coffee table with the assistance of my small children.


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