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I mainly fool around with revolvers but have a opportunity to acquire a Model 70 MK IV Gold Cup National Match, nickel finish . The serial # is 21918N70 which is apparently 1978 manufacture(?). It is conservatively in 95% condition owner claims less than 30 rounds fired. Has collet fingered bushings. What can you tell me about these? Valuation? Thanks
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....this gives you an idea of what people are asking and what people are willing to bid for them: http://www.gunbroker.com/Pistols/BI.aspx?Keywords=*colt+gold+cup+series+70 .....stupid amounts of money if the gun is pristine.
Are you wanting it for a shooter or as a collector? If as a shooter, the pin at the front of the Eliason sights WILL break/shear and the sights will fly off the gun---it's not a matter of "if" but "when" especially if you shoot hardball equivalent ammo. If you're wanting a shooter, there are any number of new guns that will shoot as well or better, so don't pay collector prices for it. JMO-YMMV.
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"....this gives you an idea of what people are asking and what people are willing to bid for them: http://www.gunbroker.com/Pistols/BI.aspx?Keywords=*colt+gold+cup+series+70 .....stupid amounts of money if the gun is pristine"
Highest bid I see is $999;not nickel.
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There's a "collectors" market for series 70 guns, but I admit I really don't "get it". The series 70 guns are nice, but they're not as good as the pistols that Colt's makes today. So if you're going to nab it, you have to want it. But if it was me, and I just felt I had to have it, I would pay no more than $150.00 less than a brand new Gold Cup. Because at the end of the day, the old Gold Cup will not be any more accurate, and may not be as reliable as the current make. Just my .02.
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I mainly fool around with revolvers but have a opportunity to acquire a Model 70 MK IV Gold Cup National Match, nickel finish . The serial # is 21918N70 which is apparently 1978 manufacture(?). It is conservatively in 95% condition owner claims less than 30 rounds fired. Has collet fingered bushings. What can you tell me about these? Valuation? Thanks An even thousand. They are good guns and from that picture, that one looks to be a good, clean example. I'd be proud to own it. I gave slightly less for one a bit older a few years back but they've come up since then. Be sure and get the box and papers if he's got it. They won't bring top dollar upon resale without them.
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i have a series 70, and one of the first things i did was remove the collet bushing and set it aside, replacing with a normal colt bushing.
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I have own a number of Gold Cups over the years and all have been very accurate out of the box and i have never had one shear the rear sight roll pin . Great pistols, but in my opinion a 1000 is the most i would pay for a used one and i would have to want it awful bad .
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I got mine for 350...in 1980. It's used and will remain in my stable until I'm dead and gone.
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Thanks for the input,gentleman. I let it go and it sold for $1400.
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Buy the new blued National Match. It is a superb pistol, almost ready for competition. It still needs a good trigger job (4 lbs), a muzzle crown and a TIGHT bushing fitted. It'll then shoot into 2.5-3" at 50 yds from a machine rest. This one's trigger was upgraded for me at the Colt Custom Shop. The bushing and muzzle crown was done by Justin McMillan (formerly of the AMU) and is now ready for Service Pistol competition. Bob 25 yd (left) and 50 ft rapid-fire strings, TZZ Match ball 50 yd slow-fire; not bad, but this gun has potential. A fitted bushing and muzzle crown helped tighten this up even more. Gun is now shooting 2.5"-3" 10-shot groups at 50 yds with match ball. The new Gold Cup National Match is the best NM Colt has made yet...if you're going to shoot it.
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i have a series 70, and one of the first things i did was remove the collet bushing and set it aside, replacing with a normal colt bushing. Mine is pre-series 70.
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