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I've had a pre-war 70 since I was in flight training back in 1980 and been loading for it for years. This rifle has an uncanny talent of throwing every kind of bullet to POI (180-220gr). I'd settled on the 180gr TTSXs 3000 with half inch accuracy, but I've always been a fan of Noslers. Today I experimented again with the 200gr Noslers as well as some 220gr Hornady RNs. I continue to be impressed... 200gr Nosler Partitions,70gr RL-22 WW brass F-210 primers (BTW, non magnum primers work best for me in all calibers with charges less than 80gr) velocity was 2850: And a bunch of 200NPs and 220gr Hornady RNs using 72 and 70 gr of H-4831 respectively. Velocity was 2850 and 2680... So it begs the question, 2850 ok or should I try for faster?
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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With that bullet ( 200 grainer..) at that velocity, you would have the perfect plains game rifle�..
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Thank you for chiming in Chui..I'd love to do a comparison with it and the 180TTSX on say out to 350 yards (the farthest I've ever taken game at).
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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I've been shooting 200-grain Partitions in various .30 calibers since the mid-1970's, when they still were "semi-spitzers" and had relief groove around the middle. In my experience it's hard to beat them as all-around .30 caliber big game bullets at any velocity from 2550 to 3000 fps. 2850 would sure work.
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The last 300 H&H I had was a Colt Coltsman... wished I still had it.
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Mine in an original Pacific Research Rimrock stock.69/IMR4350 under 165 Speer. Denny
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And OF COURSE every friggin' vendor is OUT of 200gr Partitions. I'm getting tired of this shortage bullshit!
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There's about four boxes on Gunbroker, all seem fairly reasonably priced for now.
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Pretty good deal too..I had checked there myself but didn't see them.
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Thanks! I managed to snag two boxes
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No problem, glad to see you got what you needed.
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jorg it's a pre 64 M70.... of courseit'll shoot like that. Never seen a pre 64 300 H&H that wouldn't.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Thanks. I have been waiting for those to show up again! There were 93 boxes; now there are less.
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I'd be all over those if I were looking for 200 gr. partitions. Nothing wrong with those "blemished" bullets....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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It's been several years since I killed a moose with a bullet that wasn't a blem.
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It's been several years since I killed a moose with a bullet that wasn't a blem. They work and they work very well. SPS has some awesome deals and everyone here should have them on speed dial ..I know I do...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I guess the 200s are OK but for my type of hunting the 165s at over 3100 just plain shoot flat and nothing ever walks away from a proper shot.
Trajectory mimics my 270.
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As many have stated I suspect the 200 grain partitions will work fine on whatever. Why the dislike for the 180 TTSx's? So far I've had great results with 180 TTSX's @ 3050 out of my M70 300 H&H.
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