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Originally Posted by JSTUART
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He had a lot to teach in spite of all his faults. Even for a Mason like myself who believes in God but considers the concept of Satan to be nothing but superstition of the most rank kind.


You sound like a typical gnostic.


That doesn't sound like a gnostic to me.


Correct, a gnostic embraces the spiritual world, whereas a Mason appears to embrace and actively interact with the physical.


Plus most gnostics believe in absolute dualism.


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Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho

(Just to be sure this is not misunderstood - NOT digging at you, RWE. I agree wholeheartedly with your statement.)


No dig noted.

You dig?

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I'm digging the warmth in this thread.

I got a good mellow goin' on.

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Originally Posted by RWE
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"Masons to know and you to wonder". secrets secrets! secret oaths, secret handshakes, secret messages ...Does make you wonder!......don't ever recall any references to that stuff in the bible.


13 When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, �Who do people say the Son of Man is?�

16 Simon Peter answered, �You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.�

20 Then He ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that He was the Messiah.

Big secret there.



There was no big secret there. Jesus wanted his disciples to keep quiet until he was ready to spill the beans about who he was for a number of reasons.

Jesus's secret is different from secret societies that must remain underground in order to survive persecution from the ignorant.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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He had a lot to teach in spite of all his faults. Even for a Mason like myself who believes in God but considers the concept of Satan to be nothing but superstition of the most rank kind.


You sound like a typical gnostic.
Good catch.


Not really. Gnostics are dualist.


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Originally Posted by derby_dude
There was no big secret there. Jesus wanted his disciples to keep quiet until he was ready to spill the beans about who he was for a number of reasons.


Help me out here, if they were to keep quiet, weren't they keeping a secret?

Not getting metaphysical here, nor grasping the luxury of hindsight or nuances between societies, and lets say a fraternity of 12+1, but if I tell you something, and tell you to not to tell anyone, than by God, its a secret.

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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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...Satan has no need for secret organizations...

That makes sense. There's a lot of 'in your face' pure bad out there...!
"...your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour."
There's nothing stealthy about a "roaring lion".....he's making his presence known...!
He may appear as an angel of light, i.e., Lucifer.


Boy, everything I've read concerning the heretics Lucifer is the Prince of Darkness not the Angel of Light. Light is God and Dark is the Lucifer or the devil.

I guess that's why there were heretics as they disagreed with Rome.


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Originally Posted by RWE
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There was no big secret there. Jesus wanted his disciples to keep quiet until he was ready to spill the beans about who he was for a number of reasons.


Help me out here, if they were to keep quiet, weren't they keeping a secret?

Not getting metaphysical here, nor grasping the luxury of hindsight or nuances between societies, and lets say a fraternity of 12+1, but if I tell you something, and tell you to not to tell anyone, than by God, its a secret.


It was a temporary secret not the Big Secret that only a select elite few could know after rigorous initiation. Jesus's secret is available to all whether one is a church going Christian or not. Jesus's secret is common knowledge.


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Common just one more! smile


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Last one to 100


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100 pages of the stink on Masons

I don't smell a thing


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laugh laugh laugh

We did it.


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I hear the Masons were the ones who thought of putting fluoride in drinking water. whistle


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Originally Posted by derby_dude
laugh laugh laugh

We did it.


That's it, all over red rover...I just finished some nutcase Christian flick, now I am off to watch a nutcase zombie flick.

Good night.


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Nope

But we are responsible for the 22LR shortage


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Nope

But we are responsible for the 22LR shortage


sign me up.

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