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Guys:

I'd like to duplicate the 7-08 Remington Managed Recoil load in my 7x57. It's advertised as driving a 140 gr Core-Lokt PSP at a muzzle velocity of 2361 fps. Anyone have a recipe for something along those lines?

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I don't have a recipe, but I'd be looking real hard at 4759, 4895, and Blue Dot. Shouldn't be tough at all.


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"Low Velocity 7x57"

Is there any other kind of 7x57?

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Low Velocity 7x57, isn't the redundant??

A regular minimum load of H4985 should have you around 2500, and 4895 is known for scaling back nicely. If Hodgdons lists any youth loads for the 7x57 they will probably match well with what you are looking for.


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Yeah, I know guys, but my 9 year old daughter will probably appreciate something a bit milder than mild.

But thanks for the suggestions.


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I hear you Rev, what ever it takes to get the youngers involved.

Another option would be some 100 grainers infront of a starting load of H4895. Should be a fun, mild load for her, and still relatively flat shooting if you are on this side of the Mississippi.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
I hear you Rev, what ever it takes to get the youngers involved.

Another option would be some 100 grainers infront of a starting load of H4895. Should be a fun, mild load for her, and still relatively flat shooting if you are on this side of the Mississippi.


She's already commandeered my .260; I had to put a youth stock on it for Christmas and I've kissed it good-bye. I'm afraid to let her shoot my FWT, but she's asked. I've been to Hodgdon's site and looked at their loading data. You're right: the starting loads are pretty mild. I'm not sure I'd even need the 60% reduced loads, but it wouldn't hurt for a few rounds.

What side of the Mississippi is "this side"? I'm on the flat side - cold, windy, Florida today.


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You might look at a start load of 3031.

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Originally Posted by RevMike
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I hear you Rev, what ever it takes to get the youngers involved.

Another option would be some 100 grainers infront of a starting load of H4895. Should be a fun, mild load for her, and still relatively flat shooting if you are on this side of the Mississippi.


She's already commandeered my .260; I had to put a youth stock on it for Christmas and I've kissed it good-bye. I'm afraid to let her shoot my FWT, but she's asked. I've been to Hodgdon's site and looked at their loading data. You're right: the starting loads are pretty mild. I'm not sure I'd even need the 60% reduced loads, but it wouldn't hurt for a few rounds.

What side of the Mississippi is "this side"? I'm on the flat side - cold, windy, Florida today.


I'm on the wide open, windy, Colorado/Wyoming side.


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I'll keep my mouth shut about cold.


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Originally Posted by mathman
You might look at a start load of 3031.


The Hodgdon site has turned out to be pretty good. Should have looked there first before wasting y'all's time. I think I can take it from there, although from the looks of things I might have to start making my own powder!!

Thanks again for all y'all's suggestions.

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Originally Posted by rosco1
"Low Velocity 7x57"

Is there any other kind of 7x57?


My first response was buy factory loads! Seriously, H4895 has worked very well for very reduced loads.

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Originally Posted by PastorDan
Originally Posted by rosco1
"Low Velocity 7x57"

Is there any other kind of 7x57?


My first response was buy factory loads! Seriously, H4895 has worked very well for very reduced loads.


Hey, you're supposed to help a brother out!! But thanks for the recommendation. I'll be searching for that very powder.


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Think hard about 3031.

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Originally Posted by mathman
Think hard about 3031.


Will do. There are a couple of loads listed.


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Seafire had a Blue-Dot work-up a while back on the 7x57. You might be able to find it with a bit of searching. It was under the topic of "7mm-08 youth loads" or something similar. He wentfrom 16gr up to 24gr of Blue Dot and got 140's to speeds similar to what you are looking for. 22gr was the extrapolated/concluded max for the 7mm-08. I loaded 140's over 20gr in my daughter's 7lb 7mm-08 and it was a good killer to 100yds. She was 7yrs old and the recoil was not bothersome.


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Managed Recoil uses IMR 4198....

if you have a chronograph, start right at 30 grains with the 140 and adjust up or down as needed...

you can also substitute 30 grains of RL 7

or 25 grains of SR 4759

or 22.5 grains of Blue Dot...

depending upon barrel length that should get you right in the 2350 to 2400 fps range with the 140 grainers... depending upon how tight ( or loose ) your chamber is, you can work up a grain or two... All except with Blue Dot...

also use NO Filler and also do NOT use a magnum primer...

This info is both from experience at the load bench, but also the original source being Lyman's latest cast bullet manual and disassembling Managed Recoil ammunition...

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Originally Posted by mathman
Think hard about 3031.


According to Lyman's Cast bullet manual, look between 32 and 33 grains then if you pick 3031...

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Thanks for all that info. I appreciate it.


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Low Velocity 7x57, isn't the redundant??


Not at all.

In a modern action, loaded to 30-06 pressures, the 7x57 is a fine performer. At 54 KPSI, I get 2750 FPS with 162 grain bullets, in a 24" barrel. The 7x57 and 270 are nearly ballistic twins.


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