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Me thinks that it was the bullet that did the heavy lifting, cartridge was irrelevant.

I am having a 300 H&H built, does that get me off probation and put the fire out?

On the7-08 side, it's certainly the case that reloading is usually an easier proposition, considering all the different chamber/throat issues with the Mauser. But still, not a big point, as anyone with a 7x57 can work those issues out and come up with an accurate load.

The real difference would lie more in the realm of panache, class, and nostalgia, which is more important to some than it is to others.

Help me out: If the rifle has been made in the last, say, 10 years, wouldn't all that be standardized by now?

All I was looking for was some reloading data!!

No.

Because some of these dinosaurs still want 4" throats so they can shoot 175gr elephant bullets and others want short throats so they can shoot the 120gt TSX.

Add that all up and you get a big abortion. AKA The 7x57.


Travis

It is apparent in your posts that you are frustrated with the throat of a 7x57. Most of us have the ability to reload taking into consideration a American or European reamer, 8.75" ROT. 9" ROT, 9.5" ROT or a 10" ROT.

The other real difference, at least in factory rifles, is that the 7x57 is set up to handle heavy bullets. If you are going to shoot 140s, it doesn't matter what you get�.but if you want the heavies, the 7x57 is the way to go. I used one extensively on a lot of different game of varying sizes, and it killed them all!

I'm not frustrated at all. I own a 7-08.

A 10" twisted 7X57? Holy [bleep]. That's gotta be like the Holy Grail of stupid.


Travis

Poor cellphone camera picture, but a couple of weeks ago on the closing day of deer season.

Here you go, Padre. Bob Hagel's "modern" loads in a Ruger M77 22" barrel is a start.

139 gr. Hornady, 53 gr. 4350, 2904 fps

150 gr. Nosler Partition, 53 gr. 4350 2880 fps

Bob Hagel's caveat: These loads were all near maximum in the test rifle and should be approached from 3 gr. below. It will be noted that powder charges are heavier and velocities higher than shown in any of the reloading manuals. The reason is that the manual loads are held to low pressures for older rifles with actions of doubtful strength, while the Ruger M-77 is a modern, strong action.

There is a plethora of loads in these publications.

7X57 Mauser References

2012- Rifle Magazine, Fall 2012 Special Edition, 7X57mm Mauser, Dave Scovill

Rifle Magazine, Fall 2012 Special Edition, Contemporaries of the 7x57, Mike Venturino

Rifle Magazine, Fall 2012 Special Edition, The 7mm Comes Full Circle, John Haviland

Rifle Magazine, Fall 2012 Special Edition, Seven Deadly Millimeters, Ron Spomer

Rifle Magazine, Fall 2012 Special Edition, The Legacy of the 7x57, John Barsness

Rifle Magazine, Fall 2012 Special Edition, The Commercial Sevens, Mike Venturino

2010 � New Zealand Guns and Hunting, #119, July/August, The 7X57 Stalking Rifle, Garry Keown

2010 � New Zealand Guns and Hunting, #118, May/June, The 7X57 � the 7mm Mauser and the 275 Rigby,
Garry Keown

2009 � American Rifleman, November, A Perfectly Delightful Cartridge � 7x57 mm Mauser, Jim Wilson

2008 � Handloader, #252, April/May, 7x57 Mauser - The �First� 7mm, John Haviland

2007 � Handloader, #246, April/May, 7x57mm Mauser � The Original 7mm, John Barsness

2004 � Handloader, #231, October/November, 7x57mm Mauser � Accolades from an admirer, Steve Gash

2001 � Handloader, #211, June/July, 7x57mm Mauser � The grand, old 7mm, Stan Trzonec

2000 � Handloader, #206, August/September, 7mm�s � The all-American standard, John Barsness

1999 � American Rifleman, February, 7x57mm Mauser in Modern Rifles, Edward A. Matunas

1995 � Handloader, February 1995, Modern Powders in the 7x57, Ken Waters

1992 � Game Loads And Practical Ballistics For the American Hunter, (see index), Bob Hagel

1991-Guns and Ammo, 1991, 7mm Mauser�Smallbore Blockbuster!, Ross Seyfried

1991 � Rifle, #137, September/October, The 7mm Mauser, Ludwig Olson

1990-American Rifleman, April, 1990, John Rigby & Co., Finn Aagaard

1989 � Nosler Reloading Manual, The 7x57 Mauser, Finn Aagaard

1986-American Rifleman, Nov. 1986, The 7x57 Mauser, Finn Aagaard

1986-Guns, July, 1986, Know Your Hunting Cartridges: The 7mm Mauser, Ed Matunas

1984 � Outdoor Life, March, The 7x57 Mauser, Jim Carmichael

1983 � Handloader, #102, March/April, light hunting bullets in the 7x57mm, Mike Venturino

1982 � Rifle, #83, September/October, Model 70 Featherweight � 7x57mm, Bob Hagel

1982 � Handloader #95, January/February, still popular�7mm Mauser, Ken Waters

1977 � Handloader, #66, March/ April, Super velocities in ONE 7x57, Dennis Hall

1974 � Gun Digest, #28, Forty Years with the Little 7mm, Jack O�Connor

1976 � Guns & Ammo, November 1976, 7x57 Mauser, Les Bowman

1973 � Sports Afield, August, The Welterweight Rifle With The Heavyweight Punch, John Jobson

1973 � Rifle, #27, May/June, Ruger 77 7x57---, Bob Hagel

1970 � The Hunting Rifle, Big Punch in Little Case, Jack O�Connor

1968 � Handloader, # 16, November/December, Cartridge of the Month, 7mm Mauser, (Staff)

1968 � Handloader, September, The 7x57 Mauser, Ken Waters

1967- Gun Digest 1967, The Mysterious Seven, Robert Sherwood

1964 � The Rifle Book, The All-Around Rifle (7x57), Jack O�Connor

1948 � Outdoor Life, October, Arms and Ammunition � The 7mm is great stuff for most big game. Jack O�Connor

Reverend,

It's the April 2007 of Handloader. On its way under two conditions:

1.) Tell God I did this.

2.) Mail it back.


Travis