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AB2506,

I guess your right, I was referring to the sst's. I guess I have always considered a polymer tipped bullet a ballistic tip.

Capt Craig,

I took the gun apart tonight and everything seems right to me, nothing seems to be binding and the factory bedding in the B&C stock seems pretty good.

As far as torque goes what would you recommend for the stock?

Anybody?

In factory ammo, I've found that Federal is the best bet. Try the reg. blue box, your Fusion, or Fed premium.

Three things that will almost always improve a new rifle's accuracy are bedding the action, adjusting the trigger, and re-crowning the muzzle (or at least getting it checked). Have a good gunsmith check it out.

I have found that each gun might prefer different ammo. I wouldn't recommend a particular brand as being more accurate with a few exception (Fed gold medal match being one).

I will make one generalization and that is that Superformance ammo has proven to me to be very inaccurate in the 4 or 5 calibers that I have tried it in!

A buddy's very nice 7 Rem mag shoot the Barnes Vortex stuff better than any other factory ammo we tried (5 different brands) I found that hard to believe but I shot the groups myself.

Maybe that rifle is just a turd? If you can't find an easy solution, find someone with a bore scope and see if there is an obvious flaw in the barrel.

My ELite 6500 has been a great scope so I can't fault it but yours could be bad. Bushnell has turned a lot of garbage out over the years and maybe one of the 6500s slipped through QC

Thanks guys.

Anybody have a suggestion for a torque spec for the bell & Carlson stock? I've read everything from 35-65 inch pounds. 65 seems pretty excessive to me.....

65 inch pounds should be fine. Just make sure it's INCH-pounds, NOT foot-pounds.

John

I tried 5 boxes (3 different lots) of the 7mm-08 139gr Superformance in an X-Bolt and got groups of about 2.5 to 3.5 at 100 yards. The gun shoots most everything else into an inch. I sent emails about it to Hornady giving them the scores by lot number, but no reply. I just hope it didn't mess up the barrel somehow.

The one I owned was fairly accurate.

My M70 EW shoots the Federal loading of 180gr Partitions very well. I haven't shot anything else through it yet, it is a 30-06 btw.

Dennis, ordinarily I would have to agree with you, but in the last few years, over and over again in a number of rifles (at least 12) I have seen Federal ammo produce great groups - for factory ammo. The latest example was a Sako 30-06 that a friend of mine bought. He purchased at least 12 boxes of ammo from Winchester, Federal, and Hornady in various bullet weights. He tested it all and found that his most accurate loads were all Federal - blue box, Premium, and Fusion. I wasn't surprised in the least. I'm aware of the "each gun is a law unto itself" adage, but recent experience has shown me that Federal is making some pretty good stuff.

The result is that if I were shooting factory ammo and had a new gun to sight in - the first brand of ammo I'd try would be Federal. I wouldn't be shocked if I eventually found that Federal wasn't the best, but it would nevertheless get the first chance to prove itself.

My friend has a 300 wsm that was a sour shooting pig as well. He tried all kinds of factory ammo thru it with the same results: 2 1/2 - 4+" groups. He tried the federal gold medal match, HSM custom loads, Barnes vortex (I believe that's what the box said), and Hornady superformance ammo. All of it sucked. He said if he could get any of those to shoot good he would try to duplicate that load. I then told him that that rifle should shoot chitty bullets good. You don't need to spend $65.00+/box on ammo to have a good shooting rifle. My 300 wsm EW tube does very well with factory el-cheapos (winchester powerpoints and remington corelokts)..

snowboardguy.... don't count on the superformance to shoot well. I have yet to see a gun that did like them. I think they are trying to push them too fast for their components.
Not to break your chops, but.... trade it for an X-bolt in a 7/08. You wont be disappointed. Mine shoot great. Even with factory fodder(excluding Superformance). BTW, where abouts are you in NY?

Mark,

I actually own an a-bolt in 300 wsm. It's a great rifle and I'm sure the x-bolt is too but I really like this gun and want to get it figured out. As soon as this cold breaks I plan on getting some more range time with it.

I'm located in otsego county, how about yourself?

I have a .300 WSM in the EW model. It shoots great. I handload Accubonds. I did lighten the trigger. Shoots 5/8" groups.

It's interesting... I'm 3 for 3 on superformance ammo. The rifles I've tried, 2 pre 72 sako's (270 and 3006) and one FN winchester 7mm08 all shoot about 3/4 inch 3 shot groups and 5 shot one inch groups. The winchester was spot on velocity wise with a 22 inch barrel. I've yet to chronograph the two sako's. I haven't even worked up handloads for the winchester since the superformance shot so well. That said; those two sako's shoot just about everything into an inch except the cheap federal that wal mart carries. So maybe it's the rifle as much as the ammo...

Funny I have the same gun and I had horrible accuracy with 180 Accubonds. I had the front scope mount come loose and was bout to send the gun down the road when I switched out to Leupold dual dovetail mounts and tried 180 partitions. Now I'm dreaming of adding a McMillian edge, but find the BC stock serviceable.