Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Handguns Governor at the range. My video of what ammo works best.

Bahaha.

Roundball loads can be fired from a normal revolver - for instance a 44 Mag will take three .429" sized and flattened balls, a 38 Special three 35 caliber balls.

Normal revolvers can fire shot capsules for snakes.

So just where is the huge step up in usefulness?

Thanks Bea175, your take is exactly correct. Its been that way with this idea. I was on the other side of the fence until I experimented with one. I am fine with the take it or leave it argument. What is so disturbing is how the "My way is the only way" mentality is forced down from such a condescending place from only a few. The "I'm right and have to have the last word". Its rather pathetic. If you like the idea, great because this is the right thread. If you dont, move on and find something else to contribute positively to.





Watch what Hickok45 says about the Shotpistol (and this is with a lower quality Judge).....

Not really my way is the only way...more like my way is the only one that makes sense.

The Judge and Governor are examples of a pi$s poor fix to a problem that never was.

I think the carbine version (of the judge anyway) is neat.

I don't understand why disagreeing with your opinion regarding a handgun is "disturbing."

What I'm saying is that this handgun is simply a poor choice for anything at all. It does nothing well, and everything poorly. If you can explain why .36 cal balls are an improvement over modern day HP's, or why bird shot surpasses a Keith style wadcutter, I'm all ears.

Who is Hickock 45?



Travis

Ah yes, the enduro motorcyle -- both on and off-road capable. Can do both, but neither well........ I would rather bank on an "ordinary" revolver, but that's just me.

An old TN guy with a penchant for shooting Glocks very well, has a steel plate range in his backyard, and makes a lot of video's covering a lot of handguns.

I don't think he's ever shot a gun he didn't like so his opinion on them all is pretty much "they're fun"...

Not exactly a quality reviewer...

He's a pretty good old boy. Him not being a quality reviewer may be a bit harsh, but he's probably more on the "fun" side than the hardcore one. His range is pretty awesome. I've seen him do woodswalks before shooting zombie targets and such with AK's, shotguns, Garands and what-have-you. He must have a bit of land besides just the range. I thought he'd been a teacher who retired but then there have been people who've said he's an ex LEO. Maybe he's been both.

His Judge YouTube video is pretty good, but he missed some things. The beginning is awesome though. My kids loved it.

Smith actually produced one in 28 gauge. I know 'cause I saw pics of it on the internet...

Anyway, I did see some pics. The story I got was that the 410 was acceptable to the ATF because it was the same bore diameter as an existent cartridge, the 45 Colt. They supposedly declined the 28 ga. because no existent cartridge would fit. To the best of my recollection anyway.

Maybe I'm wrong. Here's a link to the Raging Judge in that gauge. I sure thought I saw pics of the Governor in that gauge but maybe it's the Raging Judge.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...ng-judge-counters-smith-wesson-governor/

The "If you don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all" defense is always a good one when there are no facts to fall back on.

What are you talking about??? What facts are you babbling about?? 4 projectiles produce more trauma than one when executed at the same time. Especially in a concentrated area. Thats physics at work. The same would apply to any 000buck in a 12gauge but obviously in a more powerful level.
I give a actual video of performance. Like it or not, it was a example of what ammo is out there and how it performs with the Governor. At least I am doing somthing constructive.
Its not my or any other members job to convince you of anything. You seem to think everyone owes you this. You also seem to relish confrontations and pissing matches. Do you ever contribute anything other than to flutter about giving your 2 cents?? From what I can tell that's all you ever do and put up nothing on the forum.

Post the results of your penetration tests.

I like the version where the rounds are tube fed rather than using a cylinder and it has a stock and a 28" twelve gauge barrel and an inertia driven semi-auto action.

Youtube is full of them. Not that its my job but....
One with a Judge

One with a rifle


One in a Derringer.

Just a novelty piece.



Travis

I've never been drawn to these type of revolvers. I have some Glocks, and a Rem 870.

But a couple positive thoughts I have about them,

- Between all the varieties of 45acp, 45Colt, and 410; a person might be likely to score SOME type of ammo it could be fed when supplies are lean.

- With the long cylinder, the 45acp/colt ammo is getting a long running start before hitting the gap. Velocity should be fairly good, and flame-cutting at the gap should be very low seeing how pressure is going to be well past peak.

- simple manual of arms, and versatility in ammo might serve a non-enthuast well enough for home defense tool.

Shooting buckshot with a rifle has zero bearing on the conversation.

Shooting gel with the Judge and not measuring penetration or the wound cavity isn't a penetration test.

I'm talking about an actual measurable penetration test that we can compare to other rounds and commonly accepted minimum standards for penetration.



You're the guy asserting that this is a viable self defense weapon, so yeah....it is your job to verify what you're saying.

That's only true when comparing like projectiles. Buckshot and HP's ain't like projectiles.

Meh, I blew a 165lbs pigs skull apart. That was good enough for me.
The job of your own convincing is up to you and if you are really interested in knowing.

The purpose of the thread and video was for owners of this and similar shot pistols. Not to convert the non believers.
I am totally fine of any forum member chooses not to use it. I respect their choice just like I hope they would respect the choice of those members that like the shotpistol concept.