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Confiscate? From my cold Dead hands. And then after they wade through a pile of brass!
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I think the Feds are going to love this thread. NSA is no doubt monitoring...  To be sure, there are factions on both sides that would love to incite violence. Just know that once the sheit hits the fan, there's no turning back as the powers at be WILL institute "legal" Martial Law. 1st, 2nd, 4th, 6th & 10th immediately go bye-bye... Game changer.
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I am all for Travis' ideas. Tell me where to start and I will show up if at all possible. Not much you or I can do for the citizens in CT that need to organize the citizens of CT. The voice of a Washington state citizen isn't going to carry much weight in a CT based newspaper or CT based political headquarters. Travis Travis I usually see eye to eye with you. But I believe you are wrong here. If 500,000 plus folks from around the country showed up on the steps of our State Capital it would completely overflow into Bushnell Park and the streets of Hartford. Not only would every TV station and newspaper in CT notice and report it but every major news media would be onsite pronto. What that would do is make a small local issue a national issue with support of Millions of loud voices.
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thanks for the clarification dmsbandit
imo it's still early for that type of response
but I'll have to be honest, if the group was well regulated, there's something that tickles my fancy of thinking of a group of respected armed citizens in superior numbers circled around some guys house where his only crime is he has a firearm that doesn't meet most favored status.
imo it would just lead to escalation of force, LEO might leave, but they'd come back next time in larger numbers and full SWAT team deployment.
think there's more to be gained at this point by 100's showing up armed with cell phone cameras, video cameras that download instantly to the internet. And informing LEO if you arrest him, arrest us all.
then the ad campaigns start, "this man arrested and taken from his home for what? exercising his Constitutional right...."
though the SC did leave wiggle room for regulation so CT citizens may not have the law on their side.
it's one of the inherent problems in this battle, some folks are gonna have to git bit by the dogs or firehosed or beaten much as the civil rights movement saw.
folks have to be willing to believe in the cause so ferverently they are willing to accept some abuses I'd think for the tide to turn.
I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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NSA is no doubt monitoring... They should suck me off quick. 
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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"No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.
He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country."
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We will win this battle here in Connecticut peacefully.
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I think the Feds are going to love this thread. NSA is no doubt monitoring... To be sure, there are factions on both sides that would love to incite violence. Just know that once the sheit hits the fan, there's no turning back as the powers at be WILL institute "legal" Martial Law. 1st, 2nd, 4th, 6th & 10th immediately go bye-bye... Game changer. Yup and you forgot the 22nd!
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We are heading into some dangerous times. Watch what happens in AZ this week.
My home is the "sanctuary residence" for my firearms.
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We will win this battle here in Connecticut peacefully. We will support you, just as we did Haiti.
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WINNING, CONQUERING, and living through the scramble holds more appeal to me. GTC Me too.
The first time I shot myself in the head...
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We will win this battle here in Connecticut peacefully. I am thinking a million or more peacefully camping on the steps of your capital. I am NOT ready to make the first shot but something like hundreds of vets peacefully standing all around the first house would draw a crowd.
The first time I shot myself in the head...
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'How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: what would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if during periods of mass arrests people had simply not sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. ... The Organs [police] would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers ... and notwithstanding all of Stalin�s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt.' - Alexander Solzhenitsyn
Now is the time to reread Solzhenitsyn, this time as survival manuals. Thanks for the Solzhenitsyn quote. I don't know if it was you or someone else on the Fire that used it as a "tag" that got me to go to the library and get it. How Alex S. survived all those years in the gulag and live to talk about it is nothing short of a miracle. Another great book that if you read it you can draw comparisons of what is going on in America now and the Russian Revolution and gain insight on what, how and why we must act. The book is "A People's Tragedy" - The Russian Revolution 1891 - 1924 written by Orlando Figes. So see you in the streets at the barricades or in the Gulags (FEMA camps) hopefully having a slice of bread to share.
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I am all for Travis' ideas. Tell me where to start and I will show up if at all possible. Not much you or I can do for the citizens in CT that need to organize the citizens of CT. The voice of a Washington state citizen isn't going to carry much weight in a CT based newspaper or CT based political headquarters. Travis Travis I usually see eye to eye with you. But I believe you are wrong here. If 500,000 plus folks from around the country showed up on the steps of our State Capital it would completely overflow into Bushnell Park and the streets of Hartford. Not only would every TV station and newspaper in CT notice and report it but every major news media would be onsite pronto. What that would do is make a small local issue a national issue with support of Millions of loud voices. I agree with that completely. My point is it has to begin at the local level. If you cannot organize at the local level, you're not going to organize at a national level. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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'How we burned in the prison camps later thinking: what would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if during periods of mass arrests people had simply not sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. ... The Organs [police] would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers ... and notwithstanding all of Stalin�s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt.' - Alexander Solzhenitsyn
Now is the time to reread Solzhenitsyn, this time as survival manuals. Bingo. Thanks. Everything old is new, again, it seems. Maybe if we learn to see the patterns a bit earlier we can keep them from repeating their last century of democide of many millions in this new century. ![[Linked Image]](https://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/72/28/19/72281922f7fe3dd0573e9ac3166d7a98.jpg) As the saying goes - "Those that don't learn from History are doomed to repeat it" ____________ That rumbling you feel is Our Founding Fathers turning in their graves. George Washington gave the better part of his life to rid us of the shackles of tyranny risking everything he cherished. For what? So that some two-bit politicians could tell us to assume the position� ____________ They know where we live - BUT we know where they live.
It was Jerry "Mad Dog" Shriver (SFC E-7)who said:
"No, no, I've got them right where I want them -- surrounded from the inside." http://www.macvsog.cc/1969.htm
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If I were a CT citizen I would be doing everything in my power to build a network of people that can obtain a copy of the list of people that have not registered.
Once you have that list you can start to get organized. Without organization you're not going to achieve anything.
Then, once organized, you perform very low cost, high volume actions. i.e. Everybody e-mail the same newspaper on the same day. Next day, the next newspaper. All at the same time. Then, certain elected officials. All the same day, all the same time. Then, protests. All the same day, all the same time.
A list may not be essential, but eventually you're gonna need to know who you need to gather up. Because laws like this force people into wanting to maintain anonymity. So mass "announcements" will only be effective to a point.
This would be my strategy if I were in this situation in my own state.
Travis That's a start. What about my Waco and Kent State gambit? _______________ I guess for the NRA, GOA and Nat'l Gun Rights lawyers to get involved, skmeone needs to get arrested and charged first?
It was Jerry "Mad Dog" Shriver (SFC E-7)who said:
"No, no, I've got them right where I want them -- surrounded from the inside." http://www.macvsog.cc/1969.htm
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Thanks for the tip. I will certainly look for "A People's Tragedy" - The Russian Revolution 1891 - 1924 written by Orlando Figes.
Yes, if we lose the fight some of us from net forums will first meet in person in the American Gulag Archipelago, likely sooner than most think.
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As the saying goes - "Those that don't learn from History are doomed to repeat it" And those who do learn from History are doomed to watch others repeat it.
"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain--that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." --Lysander Spooner, 1867
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As the saying goes - "Those that don't learn from History are doomed to repeat it" And those who do learn from History are doomed to watch others repeat it. And sometimes themselves doomed to repeat it anyway due to the actions of others who didn't learn.
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You're wrong Steelie, I think...
although Ct. liberals outnumber the good guys, there are still good guys there.
According to your way of thinking Sam Houston got what he deserved from the mexicans?
I'm asking here, as much as telling. trying to see where you're coming from... I'm coming from a half a century of a state voting more and more liberal, loving unions and government hand outs and sheltering in place. I'm coming from a state that has more gun owners than the total number of people that voted for that shiethead governor. I'm coming from a state that likely only 20% of the gun owners fall into the 'must register' category and the other 80% say 'that don't have anything to do with me' Don't be angry at me, the enemy is all around them and in the mirror. No that the rubber has hit the pavement THEY want 'help' It's time to let a whole bunch of people stew in the mess they picked. They asked for it, they got it. Until they start doing something I'm not inclined to help at all. I'll deal with my state and my neighbors, I suggest they do the same. Unfortunately they've been spoon feed for too long, let them reap it. And exactly what state is that? You belittle others here, but no one sees where you speak from. Why hide? Is there a reason for your secrecy? Maybe you live in a state were things are going to hell, and you're not doing anything there either? Wow you are so stupid that it's painful to watch.
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