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That sir, is good news to read...

I second that. If you could put 100,000 or more unarmed, peaceful, but obviously pissed off citizens on the capitol doorstep, I think it would help too. Just beware the Agents Provocateur looking for the opportunity to run a false flag operation or the for real lone nut in your midst that kills the buzz.

I look at it this way.
The Majority of citizens in CT have voted for this legislation. As SteelHead has pointed out almost 70% of CT voted for Obama. That 70% certainly includes a huge number of Firearms owners. The Majority (70%) of CT knew this was coming and they were OK with it, so what's the problem?

The rest of the Country is outraged at what has happened to the fine citizens of CT. Why? They voted for this. Let them have what the want. That is what the election process is for. Who are we to Protest the Laws and wishes of another State?

According to the Media, many/most of those that did not register are simply unaware. Either that, or they are like Dwayne Ferguson who believes these Laws do not pertain to them. After all, they voted for Obama, he wouldn't do any thing so evil as to arrest a loyal subject. The law was meant for the Right wing wackos not we Liberals.

there were over 14,000 people at this rally. largest rally in Albany's history

Posers!

That's the way you do it. Unfortunately, liberalism is like drug addiction...only those effected can do anything about it.

With all due respect, you are wrong. The majority rules on things like elections and the elections impact many things, but the elections are not, by rule of law, supposed to affect what you are speaking of regardless of the wishes of the majority. The rule of law is the Constitution which is the supreme law of the land. The Representative Republic which we have is under the Constitution. The Constitution did not bestow or grant anything. It was written to protect rights already existent in nature. It recognizes natural rights and does not give anything. These rights, according to the founders, can never be taken away, they can just be trampled as King George was doing. Hence the whole reason for our country in the first place.

The people here and the people overall who are outraged are not sympathetic to simpletons who voted for Obama nor the similar fops in charge in Connecticut right now. They are enraged at the trampling of the natural right to self defense and the right to keep and bear the most efficient individual tools to accomplish that...guns. They are enraged that a portion of us are being affected by the very tyranny of the majority that the authors of our law sought to protect against. This is the "tyranny of Democracy". This is exactly why the Constitution was authored in the first place, to set in place protections so this would never happen.

OK, but if 70% of the State of CT wishes to live in an "Unconstitutional Socialist" environment, who are we to tell them they are can't? Let the Citizens of CT decide and if they wish to denounce the Constitution and keep voting Democrat, let em and stop wasting NRA Monies and Resources on a State that doesn't want that kind of helpful interference.

Would a state be free to override the Constitition by popular vote?

Problem is, they don't WANT to do anything about it. They are perfectly happy living in their own shallow, euphoric, non-realities.

And, much like a drug addict, they don't even recognize that they have brain damage.

Apparently.
NY and CT seem to have done just that, as has CA.

I just told you who we are...the citizens of the United States with a subset of citizens of Connecticut. I'm not a lawyer and can't give you all the ins and outs of the Supremacy Clause, etc. I do know though that these laws are clearly unconstitutional and that document itself encourages us to disobey that which goes against nature. Thus far Connecticut has not attempted to pull out of the Union. The de-facto settlement of whether that could be done or not ended in 1865 but the legal issue is still in the air. If they did remove themselves, it would be my argument that we should let them go since IMO you can't have a free country with coercion to stay in it. If that was done IMO it is not so much that they are no longer obligated to follow "nature's law" so much as that we are no longer obligated to make sure they do in order that the individual is protected from the group-which is the whole basis for our government. This is what is at stake here. Will we protect the individual and his rights or will we let a group of whatever size, tyrranize that or those individuals.

No, they would not be. See my explanation.

No, of course CT has not "attempted" to remove themselves from the Union, why would they. On the contrary, they have joined forces with NY, CA and Obama to destroy the Union and mold it into a Socialist Regime. CT isn't going anywhere, neither is CA or NY, they are just going to spred their anti-Constitution agenda like Cancer until the rest of the country falls in line with them.

Actually, that's a great point.. 140K citizens there - and the bastids STILL passed it... And WHY, you may ask?

Maybe it's exactly because they were unarmed and peaceful.. Maybe (the operative word there) the next one should be just the opposite.. Peaceful resistance seems to be taken by the gov't a-holes as weakness, pacifism and "well, darn it - I'm unhappy.." kind of response..

Like the radical muslims - seems they only respect force, and a dang good SHOW of force at that..

Jest tossin' that out there for the hyenas to chew on..

Because legally that is the way to do it if they no longer wish to live under the laws of our country. Right now the people you mention are subversives and outlaws. They are trying to make us into the outlaws. The last time a goodly number of states attempted to leave the union because they wanted to continue to live under the laws of the land as laid out by their forefathers, they were forced back into it. Let's learn from their mistakes rather than repeat them.

Steve4102. I live in NY and I didn't vote for any of these liberals that are creating the new firearms laws. I'm very tired of hearing the scenario of "you voted them in, you are an ass, now live with it".

I have read all 38 pages of posts on this thread and that philosophy has been mentioned a few times.

My question to you is, did you vote for Obama? I doubt it. Are you finding that you are upset with all his socialist laws and are you happy with his deceptiveness? If not, is it your fault that he got elected and we are forced to live with the liberal philosophies? Of course not, just like it's not my fault that I am living with the NYS Safe Act.

I have participated in demonstrations, and written to my representatives, donated money, joined organizations, but nothing will change until the courts can determine that the laws are unconstitutional which will take time and possibly be too late, or we can all work together and elect the right people to overturn some of these laws.

It would be great to go back to a capitalistic and democratic country where handouts go only to the people who truly need them and work ethics will benefit those who have them.

I could rant on and on, but my point has been made.

I'm not trying to offend anybody here, but if the suggestions Steve is making are the way to go, then they could apply to his own listed state very soon also. Unless I'm mistaken, Minnesota has voted for Obama in the last two elections.

I've said before, if the country really wanted to go the separation route, and I don't think that is what the big boys who are pushing this want in any way, shape or form, then there is a whole cluster of states that not only voted against Obama in the last election but did so with significant majorities. To wit: States that voted against Obama to the tune of 60% or more. They would make a fine country. Personally though, I am for protecting all gun owner's rights rather than throwing them under the bus, as much as I dislike what their states have done collectively to us as a whole. I don't want to see guys like ET or Barkoff hung out to dry because there are a higher percentage of dickweasels in their state than there are in mine.

So far, so good..

as have most of those here.. Right now, that's a roll of the dice - and it appears they're a wee bit loaded on the casino's side.. Change that to 'probably'... And can any of us name the "RIGHT" people?? From the last few elections, it seems like the "right" people have chosen other paths..

Wouldn't it though (wistful dream)?

More and more evidence seems to point to the fact that we're outnumbered, old and don't count for much any more...

There it is, Nailed it. Not only Obama but every Democrat POS that is on the MN ballots.

My voice here is a voice of experience.

You guys are wasting your valuable $$ and resources trying to change CT Law. They do not care, they want it and they voted for it, they are Socialists and as Socialists they will continue to vote Politicians that support this type of legislation.

The NRA, many of you and several other 2nd Amendment organizations will try and rescue CT from themselves, but it will all be for not. Come the next general election they will continue to vote Socialist and support any and all new "Unconstitutional" gun legislation.

Fighting for the Constitutional rights for the State of CT is a kin to spending time and money sending an Alcoholic to treatment who does not want to go.
This will make one feel good, as they are making an effort to save a soul, but in the end the alcoholic could give two sheets and when he is released (2014 election)he will do as he has always done.