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Re: Winchester M 101 battue #8645634 03/04/14
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA bea175 Campfire 'Bwana
bea175 Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA	Originally Posted by battue Yes they are. However, one thing to consider if it is important, is that the Classic Doubles usually had much better wood than the Winchester 101s. Time to buy them was when they went out of business. Jacqua's in Ohio was practically giving them away and they had more than a few. Same with the Parker Reproduction when they went out of business. I bought two for around $1700 each. One of them. I hunted the heck out of it and the case hardening is gone and eventually had it refinished. Picked up an extra set of barrels for this one in 16Gauge. Krieghoff made the extra barrel sets for the Parker Repos. Skeet 1 and 2: Skeet 2 is what we call today a light mod at 15thou constriction. From the "Tru Lock" web page: http://www.trulockchokes.com/faqs.php Skeet wouldn't be my first choice for Quail or Doves. Doves coming into a roast tree perhaps. Doves on the wing at 30-40 I'd like a Mod. Wild Quail are a different bird than the stocked ones and move out. Again, skeet wouldn't be a first choice for myself. The Parker Reproduction is about as good as you get in Modern SXS shotguns. A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.

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Re: Winchester M 101 bea175 #8645676 03/04/14
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA bea175 Campfire 'Bwana
bea175 Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA	Here is one my SXS's , Browning BSS Grade 2 Sidelock . It has never been fired to my Knowledge except at the Factory [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/bea175/BrowningBSSSidelock12ga10.jpg[/img] [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/bea175/BrowningBSSSidelock12ga11.jpg[/img] [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v378/bea175/BrowningBSSSidelock12ga12.jpg[/img] A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.

Re: Winchester M 101 shrapnel #8645991 03/04/14
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,158 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm OP Campfire Oracle
OP elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,158 Likes: 3 Southern New Mexico	Originally Posted by shrapnel Here is a quick reference chart: Shotgun Choke Yardage Shotgun Choke Restriction Diameter difference between bore and shotgun choke Cylinder < 20 0 Skeet 22.5 .005 of an inch Improved Cylinder 25 .010 Light Modified 30 .015 Modified 32.5 .020 Improved Modified 35 .025 Light Full 37.5 .030 Full 40 or More .035 Extra Full 40 or More .040 I prefer shotguns without choke tubes as they have a more classic look. Modified and improved cylinder work for almost everything. If you can't hit them with those chokes, you might want to practice more... Thanks Shrapnel. I like Modified and Improved Modified for all my bird hunting. Like Battue said wing shooting dove requires a little bit of reach later in the season,it's the same for late season quail. Which is why I like the Improved Modified. Battue also a Thank you for the info on chokes. That's a sweet Browning Bea175. Last edited by elkhunternm; 03/04/14. Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: Winchester M 101 bea175 #8646179 03/04/14
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,812 outside the burgh B battue Campfire Ranger
battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,812 outside the burgh	But not as good as your example. I've only seen one and it was years ago and I should have bought it. The price was right. Very nice. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: Winchester M 101 battue #8646275 03/04/14
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA bea175 Campfire 'Bwana
bea175 Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA	Hard to find a BSS Sidelock under 4 to 5 grand today A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.

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Re: Winchester M 101 bea175 #8646331 03/04/14
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,812 outside the burgh B battue Campfire Ranger
battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,812 outside the burgh	Passed on the one I saw that was NIB for $2100. However that was perhaps 10 years ago and it wasn't as nice as yours. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: Winchester M 101 battue #8646399 03/04/14
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA bea175 Campfire 'Bwana
bea175 Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA	should have took it home . Personally for hunting i would rather have the Parker Reproduction in 16 ga or 20 ga A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.

Re: Winchester M 101 bea175 #8646444 03/04/14
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,812 outside the burgh B battue Campfire Ranger
battue Campfire Ranger B Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 20,812 outside the burgh	That one is a 20/16 two barrel set. Turns out most of the 16ga barrels were damaged in a fire. Very few became available. The 20Ga barrels have taken one Grouse. I have no idea on the 16s other than it has been a bunch. laissez les bons temps rouler

Re: Winchester M 101 battue #8646634 03/04/14
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA bea175 Campfire 'Bwana
bea175 Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA	My favorite gauge for upland hunting is the 16 ga and wish my Browning was chambered in 16 ga A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.

Re: Winchester M 101 bea175 #8647034 03/04/14
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,585 Likes: 3 Bozeman, MT shrapnel Campfire Ranger
shrapnel Campfire Ranger Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 24,585 Likes: 3 Bozeman, MT	Admittedly, a Winchester 101 is not the top tier of shotguns. Granted they don't have the wood or pedigree of a nice English SXS, but still not a bad gun and for the money, I would always look to the 101. This is a better photo of the 101 wood on the 2 Pigeon grades, not XXX, but still not bad... Winchester SXS shotguns, including the model 21 are still not the gun of the better English makers. Real nice SXS shotguns have artists that create them and they pay attention to every nuance in the build of the gun without making them weigh a ton. Here are some other pictures of a shotgun that has nicer wood, but this isn't what a guy would consider when buying a 101 in the first place... [img]http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee202/bridgershooters/shotguns/100_0175_zps04d3fa5c.jpg[/img]

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Re: Winchester M 101 shrapnel #8647894 03/04/14
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA bea175 Campfire 'Bwana
bea175 Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 32,044 Kpt.,TN , Montgomery, Co, VA	I love the Winchester 101's and you have two nice ones A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.

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