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H4831 is what I use with the 150-grain bullet in the .270 WCF. +1 Works great in Dad's 270
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No 150s but 57g of H4831SC gets me 2800 fps with the 160g NPT and the same accuracy and point of impact at 100y as the 130g version.
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Yep - a 150 NP with a dash of H4831 is a rock solid combination.
Add a pre '64 for class and you're on your way to some great memories. Sounds awesome, I guess I got it covered....I just received my 150's in the mail today. I'm hopeful they shoot better than the 130 gr. partitions in my 270 fwt: ![[Linked Image]](http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x401/chiefbsa/001_zpsb4922306.jpg)
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I'm a bit disturbed that I can run a 150gr Accubond or Partition in a 308win at 2835fps with Varget.
Yet the last 270 I loaded for I averaged 2850fps with Hunter and a 150 PT.
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I have a few bags of ProShop 270 150gr partition and I just loaded a few to head to the range. I noticed these bullets have a cannelure and was wondering whether the ones that come boxed have a cannelure? Maybe that is why they were in the ProShop? And I loaded them with IMR 7828. Will let you know how this shoots in my Ruger M77. I loaded up some NBT 130gr, NBT 140gr and these 150gr partitions from the Proshop.
I just thought the cannelure was a bit off since I loaded to OAL (and my OAL needs to be a bit less than what Nosler suggested). Will see how they shoot tmw.
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I'm a bit disturbed that I can run a 150gr Accubond or Partition in a 308win at 2835fps with Varget.
Yet the last 270 I loaded for I averaged 2850fps with Hunter and a 150 PT. I'd say you are pretty easily disturbed...
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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I like H-4831 with 150 Nosler Partitions. 57 gr H4831SC gives me 2950 fps out of 24" barrel and it is very accurate. I have tried a bunch of different powders with other 150s, but never diverged from this tried & true combo with the partitions.
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I'm a bit disturbed that I can run a 150gr Accubond or Partition in a 308win at 2835fps with Varget.
Yet the last 270 I loaded for I averaged 2850fps with Hunter and a 150 PT. I'd say you are pretty easily disturbed... Yes it was a provocative comment wasn't it? I shot the 308 almost all the time for 25 years and killed probably 8000 head of game with it. Switched to 270 Win about 3 years ago as my main game taker. The 270 Win is a good bit more gun than the 308 in my opinion, even though I still love the 308 and would recommend it to any big game hunter.
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um, maybe?  I wasn't real impressed with my last 270 as far a velocity goes. I was very surprised that the my 308 was within 15fps using a much smaller case.
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Heheh yeah provocative comments are the lifeblood of any campfire yarn, online or otherwise! The 308 seems to be pumped up to the beejezus in some loading data and the 270 is dumbed down ridiculously in many manuals. There might be only 100fps in it for 150g bullets, advantage to the 270 Win, truth be known. Those 277 cal bullets in my experience are more effective in equal bullet weights. Might seem like a wank but over many kills I reckon I can tell the difference.
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I have a few bags of ProShop 270 150gr partition and I just loaded a few to head to the range. I noticed these bullets have a cannelure and was wondering whether the ones that come boxed have a cannelure? Maybe that is why they were in the ProShop? And I loaded them with IMR 7828. Will let you know how this shoots in my Ruger M77. I loaded up some NBT 130gr, NBT 140gr and these 150gr partitions from the Proshop.
I just thought the cannelure was a bit off since I loaded to OAL (and my OAL needs to be a bit less than what Nosler suggested). Will see how they shoot tmw. Many SPS bullets are overruns of bullets made for someone else (like Federal) and will have the cannilure because they request it. Simply forget it is there and load as usual.
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IMO if a guy is running a 150gr bullet in a 270win and only getting 15fps more than the the same 150gr bullet in a .308 a guy can save powder and deal with less recoil and have an advantage in the bigger diameter of the .308.
I'm hoping I can find a non temp sensitive powder for my new 270 that will change my mind.
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Shag I am running good old H4831SC (Ar2213SC) under a variety of 150g bullets including the SST and NBT and have no trouble getting 3000fps if I need it with great accuracy and zero signs that I am pushing too hard.
I also get 2900fps with the 160g Partition if I want to step on the throttle a bit, however I feel 2800 is plenty with that big sucker. Again with 4831.
Yes the loads are a little above published Hodgdon/ADI data but I am a cautious experimenter and not given to reckless overloading.
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The 308 is normally loaded with a faster powder than the 270.
Barrel length, bore, bearing surfaces and friction come into play.
You have to treat each and every gun separately to see what she will do. There are slow and fast barrels out there.
My two absolute go to guns are a RL77 308 and an R77 in 270 (with some other similar bore sizes often along for the ride also).
I normally use W748 in 308 and H4831,R22 and R17 in 270.
In either the 150 NP is quite deadly.
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I hunted with a 308 for several years (a couple different species of deer) and rebarreled it to 270 Winchester. What I was looking for was better accuracy with the aftermarket barrel and shorter blood trails. Turns out I got the accuracy and am convinced I also got the shorter trails. Typically I had come to expect 50-100 yard trails with the 308 and the 270 was more like 10-25 yards. (all providing I did my part!) These were with typical C&C bullets, usually hornadys.
I can't explain the results logically, but you couldn't get me to believe otherwise! And yes, I am a big 270 fan and to this day have an aversion to 308s! (we are a funny lot with our own "superstitions")
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I'm a bit disturbed that I can run a 150gr Accubond or Partition in a 308win at 2835fps with Varget.
Yet the last 270 I loaded for I averaged 2850fps with Hunter and a 150 PT. Shag: I can't comment on your using Hunter in your .270 Win. But yes, 2850 seems pretty slow to me too. Don't know how much experimenting you've done but as I wrote above, I get 2930 FPS with 57 gr. of Rldr-22 with a 150 Partition. Think I'd try some H-4831 and maybe even some IMR-7828. In short - don't give up on it yet. Good luck. Bear in Fairbanks Edited to add: If I recall correctly, 58.0 gr. of Rldr-22 was max. I tend to run about 1 gr. under max. as long as accuracy is acceptable. B.I.F.
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I run 59g standard 7828 with a 150 npt. It's warm but it's a book load from an older imr load book. My last 22" bdl 270 ran right at 2970 fps with it and shot 3/4 moa. I picked up a t3 ss 270 last fall and I've only had it out once but it ran about 2940 with the same load. It's not an extreme powder but I don't get too wide of swings.
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I hunted with a 308 for several years (a couple different species of deer) and rebarreled it to 270 Winchester. What I was looking for was better accuracy with the aftermarket barrel and shorter blood trails. Turns out I got the accuracy and am convinced I also got the shorter trails. Typically I had come to expect 50-100 yard trails with the 308 and the 270 was more like 10-25 yards. (all providing I did my part!) These were with typical C&C bullets, usually hornadys.
I can't explain the results logically, but you couldn't get me to believe otherwise! And yes, I am a big 270 fan and to this day have an aversion to 308s! (we are a funny lot with our own "superstitions") Funny you say that...my brother has had more deer run on him with his 308 than the other three of us have combined with 270s. Maybe its his shooting or just coincidence but ironic you say that.
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There might be only 100fps in it for 150g bullets, advantage to the 270 Win, truth be known. Those 277 cal bullets in my experience are more effective in equal bullet weights. Might seem like a wank but over many kills I reckon I can tell the difference. I agree 100%. The .270 penetrates much better than my .308's, both shooting 150's...
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IMO if a guy is running a 150gr bullet in a 270win and only getting 15fps more than the the same 150gr bullet in a .308 a guy can save powder and deal with less recoil and have an advantage in the bigger diameter of the .308.
I'm hoping I can find a non temp sensitive powder for my new 270 that will change my mind. You must be from east of the Mississippi. Out here we prefer the higher BC.
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