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My major problem with that design is the position of the rifle when carrying it in either Grizzly country while packing meat, or, through really dense Alder-Devil's Club. I think that it is too slow in the first instance and less controllable by your hands to avoid hangups in the second. But, for dryer Alberta conditions, it may well be the way to go. I keep my rifle in my hands when packing meat or food supplies and the Kifaru GB is the only method I have yet found that approximates this, which is why I like it so much. Also, I find it quite simple to "steer" the gun through the bush with my right hand and am just sold on this method of carry, each to their own. I think that a guy needs to find what works for him in his hunting situation and then use that rig to finetune his gear and techniques to perfection. Once you are familiar with a certain item or style, it is better to practice with it and stay familiar with that method of doing things, this is why I pay for Mod. 70 style safeties on all my hunting rifles, a substantial cost and I wish some kind, young banker would help me out! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Yeah, draggin' that big ...hard tail...through the buckbrush is sure a real S.O.B.!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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The rifle is definately in the hands most of the time. Where I like it out is not in the brush, but in the open in the dark, or on the side of a mountain where two hands are required. In that scabbard, you literally don't know that gun is there. It isn't flopping and you don't need to control it with a free hand. Preference though is definately key.
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You can also rig the GB to go cross chest if you like , just by moveing the top clip to the oposite side and sliding the bottom a little more forward.Just an option not mentioned yet . I use mine in the trditional fashion.
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All:
Thanx for the lively discussion on the + & - of carrying a firearm hands free. Sounds like a few folks have had good experience with the Kifaru Gunbearer. I'll have to check into that when I can get on their site tonight @ home.
I purchased the Ultimate Fanny Pack from Bass Pro and like it alot. It's just the right size for me when I'm only out for just the day. It rides comfortably and has some external straps to hold my jacket when I'm gonna walk for a distance. Wonder if I could integrate the Gunbearer on this Fanny Pack?
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The "Universal Gunbearer" should work, I use it on my Mystery Ranch Deluxe pack which is my "go-to" rig for day hikes and short jaunts of all types. It works perfectly with my Grizzly rifle and I am sure will do do for you, as well.
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As has been pointed out, the gunbearer is relatively inexpensive. Your not out much giving it a whirl.
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My major problem with that design is the position of the rifle when carrying it in either Grizzly country while packing meat, or, through really dense Alder-Devil's Club. I think that it is too slow in the first instance and less controllable by your hands to avoid hangups in the second. But, for dryer Alberta conditions, it may well be the way to go. I keep my rifle in my hands when packing meat or food supplies and the Kifaru GB is the only method I have yet found that approximates this, which is why I like it so much. Also, I find it quite simple to "steer" the gun through the bush with my right hand and am just sold on this method of carry, each to their own. I think that a guy needs to find what works for him in his hunting situation and then use that rig to finetune his gear and techniques to perfection. Once you are familiar with a certain item or style, it is better to practice with it and stay familiar with that method of doing things, this is why I pay for Mod. 70 style safeties on all my hunting rifles, a substantial cost and I wish some kind, young banker would help me out! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Just to throw out my experience w/ the J105. Keep in mind this is a pack designed by an Olympic athlete based on an athletic design. Myself, I'm very athletic and routinely train croscountry and through brush carrying the J105 loaded w/ a minimum of 40lbs and a rifle. I use this specific pack for hunting in thick stuff in the mountains and foothills. I find that the overall profile of this pack is small enough to snake through thick stuff much easier than my large Barney's frame pack or my smaller Kelty frame pack. I can make it as small as a daypack yet open it up to haul a good amount of stuff. It is very flexible. As far as the scabbard goes. With the J105 loaded up w/ bulk and weight, I have no problem removing a rifle as large as a 375H&H from the scabbard and replacing it while running. I've tried this on a few timed courses compairing it to sling carry and found I'm almost as fast. Though, keep in mind most may not be as athletic. I prefer a frame pack for most heavy hauling but find the J105 a great all-purpose pack to actually wear and use while hunting.
�I've never met a genius. A genius to me is someone who does well at something he hates. Anybody can do well at something he loves -- it's just a question of finding the subject.�
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I'm still trying to decide what to get for this years elk hunting. There are a lot of good packs out there for hunting like the Kifaru and MR that have been discussed on this thread. I'm also looking at some of the Kelty packs. I've read that Kelty licensed some of the MR technology. Don't know which designs or which pack they use it on, but I've read some good post about the Kelty hunting packs.
Kut,
Did you buy the MR Crew Cab?
Has anyone tried the Crew Cab?
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Not yet, they do not have the fabric in the green colour I want and will not be doing Crew Cabs in it until the autumn. They now have only coyote brown and blaze orange, which do not suit my purposes.
I expect to get the Crew Cab and Large Bag about the beginning of hunting season, right now, I have my NICE frame loaded with a 66lb. sandbag for packing around home on those days when I can't get to the local mountains for my training hikes.
I am actually up at this ungawdly hour waiting for dawn for my gym to open and will go on the step machine with the loaded NICE frame on.....the things an old geexer will do to get/stay in hunting shape!
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Elk season in COL starts in late August. I guess I wont be able to wait for the Crew Cabs. I actually am fond of the new Army Camo design. Maybe I'll just get NICE frame and a Kelty backpack for this year and wait for the Crew Cab for next year.
Another week or two and I'll start hiking my 300 foot tower getting in shape for fall. The stepper at the gym is good but there is nothing like good scenery and fresh air to keep you motivated.
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