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I was using H110 in The Hornet.
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Yeah, that'll shorten case life. Li'l Gun pressures are considerably lower, even when pushing 40's at maximum velocities, running around 25-30,000 CUP. H110 pressures average around 42K.
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With 40 grain ballistic tips I was getting 3,100 and some change out of a Ruger varmint with a 24" Tube.Sucker put the smack down on prairie rats.
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noknees,
In the other I said it was made by Hornady, because that's what I'd found out. THAT is good info. As stated earlier, my Creedmoor brass is good stuff. Now that I know they make it, I'll look at some of their other offerings! The 6 Creedmoor brass from GAP is good looking stuff. I just need a rifle to shoot it...
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Waiting on my 6 Creedmoor as well. Should be any time now...
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MD--Do you have an article on the 17 Hornet in the works? If not , maybe consider doing one.
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I got the Hornady 270 brass today from Grafs.I decided to check it out a little more than I usually do.First it comes in a cool shiny Red box.I weighed fifty of them and weight varied by much as 5 grains.Length wise they were more uniform varying around 5 thousands.I was using a New RCBS Universal hand primer.At first I thought that there was some thing wrong with the hand primer as I had a hard time seating the primers.It turned out that the pockets are super tight.I started taking a close look at the cases and noticed quiet a few were starting to corrode.This should not be on new unfired brass.So far,not a happy camper.I will shoot and see this weekend.
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what primers? Some primers are harder than others and harder to seat. I know 210m's in Lapua brass is really hard to seat.
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I got the Hornady 270 brass today from Grafs.I decided to check it out a little more than I usually do.First it comes in a cool shiny Red box.I weighed fifty of them and weight varied by much as 5 grains.Length wise they were more uniform varying around 5 thousands.I was using a New RCBS Universal hand primer.At first I thought that there was some thing wrong with the hand primer as I had a hard time seating the primers.It turned out that the pockets are super tight.I started taking a close look at the cases and noticed quiet a few were starting to corrode.This should not be on new unfired brass.So far,not a happy camper.I will shoot and see this weekend. Well, I was going to skip this thread, but I have to admit that I had a very similar experience with Hornady 9.3x62 brass. The extreme spread in weights was actually half again more than you found in your .270 brass, and the necks were very uneven. I didn't bother to compare case lengths, but overall I was disappointed in the quality of the brass.
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what primers? Some primers are harder than others and harder to seat. I know 210m's in Lapua brass is really hard to seat. Winchester LR
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smike308,
I have a handloading column on the .17 Hornet coming out in GUNS pretty soon. Also have an assignment on handloading the three factory .17 centerfires for HANDLOADER, which I'll do in the next month or two.
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Huntz,
One trick I've used on tight primer pockets is chamfering them, using a standard case-mouth chamfering tool. I end up doing that a lot on Lapua and Norma brass, and seem to remember doing it on my last batch of Hornady 6.5 Creedmoor brass as well.
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Huntz,
One trick I've used on tight primer pockets is chamfering them, using a standard case-mouth chamfering tool. I end up doing that a lot on Lapua and Norma brass, and seem to remember doing it on my last batch of Hornady 6.5 Creedmoor brass as well. Thanks for the tip MD 
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Win brass has been a bear lately for me. Primer pockets are tough to seat and shallow. Only primer that works ez is the old win copper colored primers. Go figure LOL!
Hey Hunt...how much does the hornady brass weigh? Curious if it trends towards win or rem?
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One of the factors here is that many if not most ammo companies sometimes make brass for each other. This happens for various reasons, but it's usually because one company gets a big order for a certain cartridge and spends so much time making it they don't have time to make other cases.
Handloaders like to generalize about the definitive characteristics of brass from certain companies, but in reality it's hard to be certain that any particular batch was made by the company stamped on the case heads.
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And...that's a bit of the reason I was hoping for a wt figure from Huntz.
If primer pockets act like win and wt is a twin...I would have my suspicians.......but still no proof...lol!
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Win brass has been a bear lately for me. Primer pockets are tough to seat and shallow. Only primer that works ez is the old win copper colored primers. Go figure LOL!
Hey Hunt...how much does the hornady brass weigh? Curious if it trends towards win or rem? Next time I go into , as my wife puts it(That hell hole)I will grab my notes and post it. 172.1 to 177,8 grains
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smike308,
I have a handloading column on the .17 Hornet coming out in GUNS pretty soon. Also have an assignment on handloading the three factory .17 centerfires for HANDLOADER, which I'll do in the next month or two. JB--Thanks for the "heads-up". I'm looking forward to both of them.
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Huntz, Usually Winchester primers seat easily in my WW and RP brass. Remington are easier yet in my experiences. Of course most of my primers are older stock but the Winchester are now all in the blue box.
If you have some Remington, try them if not let me know I have a good supply, both standard and magnum.
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Hornady brass marked "frontier" is made by Winchester
The rest is made in Grand Island by the Hornady company and IMO it's as good as anyone's including the higher priced Nosler stuff. Are you sure? I recently asked a Hornady tech about frontier bass and he didn't mention this. He told me all Hornady brass was the same..
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