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Billy, you think it might not be available in 5 yrs? I figured with GAP promoting it and delivering 115,000 pieces/year it would last?

Guess you could always neck 6.5 Creed down as that brass doesn't look to be short lived....

Hopefully I'm wrong.

I just don't trust anything being promoted by a small specialty company staying around for any length of time. We rifle looneys are a fickle bunch, and there are plenty of examples out there of "The next big thing" that failed to stick around. Also plenty of examples of guys getting geared up for something specialized that didn't last, for example Wildcat bullets.

The positive side of this is that since Hornady was able to build this brass during the current shortage, hopefully they'll continue to be persuaded during less difficult times.

I would personally go 6-22-250 simply because I have a metric crap ton of 22-250 brass on hand, not because I am worried about 6 Creedmoor brass. Like you said, it's easy enough to neck down from the 6.5, or via fireforming.

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I think if you bought 300 pieces from GAP, you would have enough to last longer than your barrel. I am really intrigued by the Creedmoor case. Minimal taper and a 30 degree shoulder. The 22-250 begs to be trimmed.

I think a 22 Creed would be a great round. No dicking with fireforming like with the 22-250AI.

I'd personally build the 22x47 Lapua. 30� shoulder, resize and go. Better brass option, and should be just fine in regards to speed. But...to each their own

Also, if I were to side step from a regular 243 Win, I think a 6x47L or a 6XC (and a few 100 pieces of brass from Tubb) would be viable options.

Not dogging on the Creedmore options, just adding some more logs to the fire.

I thought I wanted an XC, but that brass is a myth at this point.

I see where you guys are coming from. I just have a hard time losing expensive brass. I figure at least 5% loss per firing, whether through my own idiocy on the press or simply ejecting cases into a snowbank while sending multiple rounds in a coyote's direction. I'm too "Scotch" in nature to accept this with $1 a piece brass.

My 6-250 is absolutely stupid fun... And accurate. A simple neck-down of 22-250 cases. Great barrel life.

Econo-custom this spring.
Screwed a new McGowen .300 Win mag 24" 1-10" Magnum contour SS barrel to a Accutrigger SS 116 Savage action in a B&C Medalist stock. Scoping it with a Vortex HS-T 4-16x44 in Burris Signature Zee rings.
Almost ready to go pop some caps. When/if the wind stops blowing.

Does the wind stop blowing in Wy?

PF M70 Featherweight 280 AI which was an 06 until I got a 280 Rem take-off and sent it to Dave @ IT&D. Should be ready w/in the next couple of weeks!!

Just laid away a Weatherby Vangard w/ good trigger, Leupold VX-III glossy 3.5-10x 40mm AO (this'll go on the 280 AI above), B&C Medalist, 7RM w/ brake. Hate brakes & barrel's exterior was a bit rough but I happen to have a brand new take-off in .300 Weatherby Mag that's goin' on it; original tube'll go to fleabay. Not too sure I keep this long as I'm not a big magnum guy and pretty sure it'll weigh half a ton.

Pre-accu Savage 11 in 223 Rem for my son. Between the action, Stevens take-off, aftermarket recoil lug & barrel nut I'll have barely $250 into it. Giving it to my 9 yo son to shoot the he!! Out of all summer, to take deer hunting this fall, & to Texas for feral pigs next January.

Steyr LR 98 a buddy gave me, Apex take-off in Swede, military trigger filed to single stage, TLWs, Leupy 6x, UBBER light BM from Brownell's and Boyd's JRS Classic w/ wood upgrade that Karnis refined for me.

I'm likin' this factory take-off business!

Prairie Goat, Hornady brass from GAP is only $65 per 100 which is less than I am paying for Lapua 22-250. That being said, I have no problem losing brass when I am shooting at an animal. Small price to pay.

efw: I am sure it is a viable round, but with the Creed you just load and go, don't even have to neck down. Not that necking down is a big deal, but nice to not have to make brass.

Hence why I don't use Lapua brass for hunting rifles.

But what it comes down to: If you don't spend much time hunting, you won't lose much brass.

Billy: You guys should maybe thinks about a 6mm Super LR.One pass through the die of a 243 case,gives a long neck IIRC .321?) and a 30 degree shoulder...a "longer" 6XC that will shoot 115's at 3000 and 105's etc up to 3200.One pass through the form die does it.Plenty of neck to seat bullets where you want them.

Brass is that common 243 stuff. I have been curious about this one myself.

Small speciallty company....that's funny right there.

Well what definition would you use?

I'm in no way bashing GAP, they are excellent rifles. I was simply referring to how specialized products don't always stick around. I wouldn't be surprised if this brass holds on, but then I wouldn't be surprised if it goes away.

There's an awful lot of brass that was introduced in commercial rifles in the not so distant past (say the 17 Fireball) that has been near nonexistent since before the current craze.

While the Super LR sounds fine, if I wanted a mid sized 6mm I would just build another 243.

We Looneys do a lot of farting around trying to reinvent the wheel.

I feel the same way with the stuff I have to make/form also. That said, buying enough brass to wear out the barrel from the get go is always an option.