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Hey!! Your going the wrongway.
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Answer the question or admit you don't have a clue about what you're talking about.
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Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
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I'm beginning to wonder if Boxer's little brother has recently joined our forum.
I think I'll also be putting someone else on ignore.
Those who must raise their voice to get their point across are generally not intelligent enough to do so in any other way.
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BSA,oldelkhunter is ignoring "wrongway" not you. Thank You for clarifying that. Zero chance I ever put BSA on ignore.
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I'm beginning to wonder if Boxer's little brother has recently joined our forum.
I think I'll also be putting someone else on ignore. I hate over moderated forums but some morons need to be shown the door.
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Campfire Oracle
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BSA,oldelkhunter is ignoring "wrongway" not you. Thank You for clarifying that. Zero chance I ever put BSA on ignore. You Sir,are welcome.
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Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
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Does the 7mm Remington Magnum perform best with a 24" or 26" barrel? All things being equal(they rarely are)a 26" barrel in 7 Rem Mag should deliver higher velocity than a 24". But velocity can vary as much between two different 24" barrels as it will between a 24 and a 26",depending on make of barrel, throat,etc etc. Out of numerous 7 Rem Mags, all mine have had 24" barrels,except for a couple of M70 Classics,which had 26". They did not hang around long at that length. Hard to generalize,and there are many variables that crop up, but these are the velocities I have seen with hand loads in 24" 7 Rem Mags: 175's- about 2900 fps. 160's- 3000-3100 fps 150's- 3150 fps 140's 3200-3300 fps.
Last edited by BobinNH; 04/06/14.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Does the 7mm Remington Magnum perform best with a 24" or 26" barrel? All things being equal(they rarely are)a 26" barrel in 7 Rem Mag should deliver higher velocity than a 24". But velocity can vary as much between two different 24" barrels as it will between a 24 and a 26",depending on make of barrel, throat,etc etc. Out of numerous 7 Rem Mags, all mine have had 24" barrels,except for a couple of M70 Classics,which had 26". They did not hang around long at that length. Hard to generalize,and there are many variables that crop up, but these are the velocities I have seen with hand loads in 24" 7 Rem Mags: 175's- about 2900 fps. 160's- 3000-3100 fps 150's- 3150 fps 140's 3200-3300 fps. I'm very tempted to chop 2" off of mine and throw it in the Brown Precision stock I have..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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If you want the benefits of a longer barrel and the handiness of a short rifle, you can always cut two inches off the stock-
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Pull the barrel and slap a 338 win mag on it.
Shoukdnt be shooting animals with anything less. At it again huh? Remember to get to bed early, it's a school night.
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I'm beginning to wonder if Boxer's little brother has recently joined our forum.
I think I'll also be putting someone else on ignore. I hate over moderated forums but some morons need to be shown the door. Just post up a Justin Bieber Youtube video. Tweens love that stuff. He'll be entertained for hours.
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Does the 7mm Remington Magnum perform best with a 24" or 26" barrel? Define "perform".. What could I expect to gain over a 22" barreled 270 Winchester? Look at it this way, if you like. A 7 Rem mag will do with a 160 gr bullet about what a 270 will do with a 130 gr. And it will do with a 175 gr, about what a 270 Win will do with a 150 gr. We could talk about lighter bullets and higher velocities in the 7 Rem Mag as well, but to me the key advantage of a 7 Rem Mag(or any magnum capacity 7mm) is the ability to push heavy 7mm bullets at the same or higher velocity than can be obtained from the smaller 7mm's with lighter bullets.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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We could talk about lighter bullets and higher velocities in the 7 Rem Mag as well, but to me the key advantage of a 7 Rem Mag(or any magnum capacity 7mm) is the ability to push heavy 7mm bullets at the same or higher velocity than can be obtained from the smaller 7mm's with lighter bullets.
Amen from the back row!
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Always learning something from you Muledeer!
That's great velocity for a shortened 300 win mag. Do you notice anymore muzzle blast than with a longer barrel?
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No, didn't notice more muzzle blast, partly because all .300 magnums are LOUD!
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Intuitively, the 7 magnum should kill better than the 270. It would seem to make sense that especially on elk, a 160 grain 7 mm bullet would likely give better penetration and/or a wider wound channel than a 270 bullet. I have shot quite a few animals with a 270, and a very few with the 7 magnum, and with the few animals I shot with the 7 magnum, I could never tell any difference in effectiveness. Admittedly, I am probably one of the least qualified here to make that judgement. Would like to hear some opinions from those more experiences.
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/ on a .300 Winchester Magnum to 22". It still got 3000+ fps with 180-grain bullets using published data. That's more than any 22-inch barreled .30-06 or .308 will get. I'm pretty sure that's incorrect. Perhaps you missed a few select posts expounding on the magic virtues of certain newer powders (But I think I'd prefer to hunt with you. )
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I've had several 7mm rem mags with both 24" and 26" barrels. I'm having another built right now and it'll be 24". I've settled on anything that gets used hunting having no more than a 24" barrel. 26" is fine on something that gets used off a bench, but the tiny bit of extra velocity the extra 2" will get you isn't worth wrestling with the extra length in the field.
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With the 26" barrel over the 24" there is about 50 fps differance in mine. But the results on all deer with that 139 gr. bullet have all been bang flops. I don't think the deer had a clue which was which.
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With the 26" barrel over the 24" there is about 50 fps differance in mine. But the results on all deer with that 139 gr. bullet have all been bang flops. I don't think the deer had a clue which was which. To me, that seems like such a small difference in velocity that it would be worth going to 24". Thanks...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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