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H1000 is good, but not as good, btw. At least according to the Doppler.
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BillB, My 340 is evidently only barely enough gun then? TIC-Muddy
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If I can get my hand on some retumbo I'm good load some and see how they shoot. So far I'm pretty happy with the h1000 but got a lot more testing to do
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Retumbo for the win in the .338L, especially with 300gr. Temp stable (zero velocity fluctuation) from -40 to +165. Really incredible powder in the 338. Ridiculous statement, but funny. hope you are the only one that truly believes it. been shooting the 338 Lapua since 2005 mostly with the 300gr SMK, I have had the best luck with RL25 and H1000 (Lapua cases with 215's). Only problem with the 300gr SMK is if you shoot them to 1000 yards+ you must sort them for bearing surface length because they vary alot. Soured quickly on the Berger 300 grainers when they first came out because of the nose collapse issue, they have fixed the issue now but the SMK shoots so well it is hard to give them another chance. A few hundred thousand dollars in ammo and weapons testing for a SOCOM program will make a believer out of you sooner than some guy playing with a $129 chronograph from Midway will. If the gentlemen from the high-end rifle ammo company that funded the testing were willing to share specifics you'd be as impressed with the results as I was. I've shot the combo to 2340 yards and conducted thousands of rounds of testing in the Lapua. Knock yourself out recreating the quantity and quality of professional ballistics testing I've been fortunate to participate in and you'll have data that's more than anecdotal. Holy Schitt Greeny, You take one ridiculous statement and compound it with another, simple fact is no matter how temp. stable a powder is it will vary greatly from a 205 degree temperature change (some will just change more than others). Your statement of "(zero velocity fluctuation)from -40 to +165" is just a figment of your imagination and has no foundation in reality, perhaps it is you that should invest more than $129 in a chronograph, I DID and that is how I know your statement is incorrect. btw; I have shot a few rounds myself (-:
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Not temp stable but mine liked mag pro for some reason. The guy I got it from gave me some factory black hills 250's. They shot amazing in the gun so I pulled one down and found a bunch of ball powder in it. After some comparing I figured out it was mag pro. It worked with 300's too. I didn't do a ton of experiencing beyond that so I'm not the best one to ask but I wouldn't have guessed mag pro would have worked so well.
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Never used mag pro before but think buddy has some, may have to try it.
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Retumbo for the win in the .338L, especially with 300gr. Temp stable (zero velocity fluctuation) from -40 to +165. Really incredible powder in the 338. Ridiculous statement, but funny. hope you are the only one that truly believes it. been shooting the 338 Lapua since 2005 mostly with the 300gr SMK, I have had the best luck with RL25 and H1000 (Lapua cases with 215's). Only problem with the 300gr SMK is if you shoot them to 1000 yards+ you must sort them for bearing surface length because they vary alot. Soured quickly on the Berger 300 grainers when they first came out because of the nose collapse issue, they have fixed the issue now but the SMK shoots so well it is hard to give them another chance. A few hundred thousand dollars in ammo and weapons testing for a SOCOM program will make a believer out of you sooner than some guy playing with a $129 chronograph from Midway will. If the gentlemen from the high-end rifle ammo company that funded the testing were willing to share specifics you'd be as impressed with the results as I was. I've shot the combo to 2340 yards and conducted thousands of rounds of testing in the Lapua. Knock yourself out recreating the quantity and quality of professional ballistics testing I've been fortunate to participate in and you'll have data that's more than anecdotal. Holy Schitt Greeny, You take one ridiculous statement and compound it with another, simple fact is no matter how temp. stable a powder is it will vary greatly from a 205 degree temperature change (some will just change more than others). Your statement of "(zero velocity fluctuation)from -40 to +165" is just a figment of your imagination and has no foundation in reality, perhaps it is you that should invest more than $129 in a chronograph, I DID and that is how I know your statement is incorrect. btw; I have shot a few rounds myself (-: Funny, "That's not possible" is EXACTLY what they said before the testing started. Those are the exact words spoken in response to the performance specification's temperature stability requirements. We were all singing a different tune after the fact. Retumbo, 300gr Berger or Scenar, 215M will provide 3.5"-5" of vertical dispersion at 1,000 yards consistently (multiple rifles, multiple days, multiple shooters, multiple conditions, etc., etc., etc.). Ammo conditions from -40 to +165 exhibited ZERO velocity change with Retumbo and the stated components. Good luck with your component choices. I know what I'm sticking with.
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