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Where I live, a 50mm scope is a sure sign of a novice hunter. High, see-through mounts remove all doubt.
Bingo............... So when you see me carrying my M70 with its Weaver K3, it will be obvious that I'm the reincarnation of Daniel Boone? Funny how we are so quick to judge others. Agreed, it is a gross generalization and not true 100% of the time. That said, I firmly believe that it is true MOST of the time. JME.....
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You have to mount them higher messing with cheek weld.
Cheek weld means nothing when you have an Adjustable Objective that is adjusted properly. What??
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You have to mount them higher messing with cheek weld.
Cheek weld means nothing when you have an Adjustable Objective that is adjusted properly. What?? 2muchgun,...I agree...WHAT?? I can't wait to hear what proper eye position which comes from proper cheek weld has to do with the AO....:-) This is going to be good.
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Yeah, I'm all ears myself. Bet he has see-thru rings too 
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You have to mount them higher messing with cheek weld.
Cheek weld means nothing when you have an Adjustable Objective that is adjusted properly. What?? 2muchgun,...I agree...WHAT?? I can't wait to hear what proper eye position which comes from proper cheek weld has to do with the AO....:-) This is going to be good. When you adjust all the parallax out, it doesn't matter where your eye is. If you knew what an AO was for, and how it was used, you wouldn't have to ask such a dumazz question. You were an idiot 6 years ago when I put you on ignore, and you're still an idiot. Come back when you're 12..........
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When you adjust all the parallax out, it doesn't matter where your eye is. If you knew what an AO was for, and how it was used, you wouldn't have to ask such a dumazz question. You were an idiot 6 years ago when I put you on ignore, and you're still an idiot. Come back when you're 12..........
Except for the little fact that poor cheek weld results in difficulty returning one's head to the same position every time.
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It doesn't have to be in the same position when parallax is adjusted out, which is the whole point. Get a clue.
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Lots of competitive shooters using rifles set up with poor cheek weld, said no one ever.
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I have parallax adjustable scopes in a variety of sizes, up to 56mm. I still find it easier to shoot well with a low mounted scope. A high, floating head position does nothing good for the consistency of my hold and therefore the consistency of my shooting.
The really high scope mounting seen on benchrest rifles isn't relevant here. Such rifles are built with stocks that track on the bags during recoil, and the shooters barely touch the rifles compared to how a typical hunting rifle is handled.
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Obviously you don't shoot Benchrest Prairie Goat.
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Adjustable stocks for check weld solves that issue.
I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first
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It's ironic that hunters want compact binoculars and oversized scopes. I have neither.
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Obviously you don't shoot Benchrest Prairie Goat. Which is totally phugging different, as the whole point there is minimizing one's influence on the rifle.
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I have parallax adjustable scopes in a variety of sizes, up to 56mm. I still find it easier to shoot well with a low mounted scope. A high, floating head position does nothing good for the consistency of my hold and therefore the consistency of my shooting.
The really high scope mounting seen on benchrest rifles isn't relevant here. Such rifles are built with stocks that track on the bags during recoil, and the shooters barely touch the rifles compared to how a typical hunting rifle is handled.
Which is exactly what I was getting at. Good cheek weld is an important component of good shooting, and having a scope mounted out in space isn't going to help things.
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Obviously you don't shoot Benchrest Prairie Goat. Which is totally phugging different, as the whole point there is minimizing one's influence on the rifle. And that is the whole point of eliminating parallax with an Adjustable Objective, to minimize the effect of an improper cheek weld.
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That eliminates the optical effect, but not the physical effect on the hold on the rifle.
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Adjustable stocks for check weld solves that issue.
Or you could just mount the scope down where it's supposed to be. Most of us don't want the added weight of an adjustable cheekpiece on our NULAs. At least manufacturers are figuring out that the vast majority of folks are going to mount scopes and not use open sights, and are designing their stocks with higher combs.
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That eliminates the optical effect, but not the physical effect on the hold on the rifle. Yep. Haven't seen a lot of Olympic Biathlon shooters competing with Winchester featherweight style stocks lately. 
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You don't see them with scopes either.
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So what? They are still using stocks setup for proper cheek weld.
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