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Lets cut to the core of this Moses.

The reasons for, historical implications of and the social divide of that war have raged since the first shot was fired. You can debate the whats and the whys. You can take sides within the context of States rights.

One thing you can't and shouldn't do is slander/desecrate the resting place of the men, women and children who lived thru the horror. Makes no difference if they were from the North or South.

If a Northerner made the same inference to a Confederates resting place my feelings would be the same. You stepped over the line, plane and simple and it can't be justified.


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Thats all you got? You're nothing but a paper cutout of a real Southerner.

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A campfire lecture on the Civil War is just what I needed.

Thank you. It's all so clear now.

You're accusation of desecrating the resting places of yankee soldiers is quite humorous.

Trying to throw women and children in the mix to bolster your case is pathetic and dishonest.

Posting a pic isn't grave desecration you cretin, but feel free to keep making schit up.

It's all you're good at.


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Guess they are quiet folk in that no longer can speak for themselves. Funny how that worked out. And you are more than welcome to send them home. We would love to have them.

You're running uphill and you ain't got the legs to make the top.

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Originally Posted by JohnMoses

I didn't see anyone getting upset when rrroae made his remark about southerners.

Funny how that schit doesn't work both ways.




Just so I know, what disparaging remark did I make about southerners?

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Originally Posted by battue
Lets cut to the core of this Moses.

The reasons for, historical implications of and the social divide of that war have raged since the first shot was fired. You can debate the whats and the whys. You can take sides within the context of States rights.

One thing you can't and shouldn't do is slander/desecrate the resting place of the men, women and children who lived thru the horror. Makes no difference if they were from the North or South.

If a Northerner made the same inference to a Confederates resting place my feelings would be the same. You stepped over the line, plane and simple and it can't be justified.


I'd buy you a beer anytime.

It's not about the why, it's about respect. It's about some kid, 150 years ago, scared, tired, hungry, who thought he was doing his duty. It's about that kid, someone's son (think about that, if you have kids) getting a bullet in the gut or a bayonet in the chest, dying alone on some bloody battlefield far from home. What were his last thoughts? State's rights? The stain of slavery? No, he probably just said "Mama, where are you?" And died.

And you're pi$$ing on his grave.

So go ahead, wave your flag and stomp your foot, re-fight battles from a century and a half ago, and see what changes. In the meantime you are showing your true character which is, I must say, really base.

Do you ever understand the idea of shame? If you were a man you would.



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One great thing about internet forums is you see the diversity of opinion we have in our great country - and how many really cranky and unhappy people are out there willing to share.

I certainly don't think Cameraland is perfect and sometimes have disagreed with their opinion on specific items, but they are a darn good optics outfit and go out of their way to try and provide customer service. I recommend Doug and his team all the time when folks are looking for a good deal on quality optics.

One of my pet peeves is being pushed off to the manufacturer when an item I just bought from a reseller doesn't work so the OP certainly has a point. At least you don't have to make an appointment to return something like the Apple store tried on me last time. Not buying from a retail source in protest is always a valid method of expressing your displeasure - I doubt CL will notice and this thread will be forgotten in a short time.

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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Originally Posted by battue
Lets cut to the core of this Moses.

The reasons for, historical implications of and the social divide of that war have raged since the first shot was fired. You can debate the whats and the whys. You can take sides within the context of States rights.

One thing you can't and shouldn't do is slander/desecrate the resting place of the men, women and children who lived thru the horror. Makes no difference if they were from the North or South.

If a Northerner made the same inference to a Confederates resting place my feelings would be the same. You stepped over the line, plane and simple and it can't be justified.


I'd buy you a beer anytime.

It's not about the why, it's about respect. It's about some kid, 150 years ago, scared, tired, hungry, who thought he was doing his duty. It's about that kid, someone's son (think about that, if you have kids) getting a bullet in the gut or a bayonet in the chest, dying alone on some bloody battlefield far from home. What were his last thoughts? State's rights? The stain of slavery? No, he probably just said "Mama, where are you?" And died.

And you're pi$$ing on his grave.

So go ahead, wave your flag and stomp your foot, re-fight battles from a century and a half ago, and see what changes. In the meantime you are showing your true character which is, I must say, really base.

Do you ever understand the idea of shame? If you were a man you would.



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You guys are spot on.

It wouldn't make any difference if the graves were those of Japanese soldiers from WWII, or Iraqi Army soldiers from the First Gulf War.

Moses's post was just plain disrespectful.

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Regardless of whether Moses has started Civil War 2, this thread needs to die.

23 pages of this crap?

Move on people.

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Originally Posted by JohnMoses

I didn't see anyone getting upset when rrroae made his remark about southerners.
Funny how that schit doesn't work both ways.



Originally Posted by rrroae


Just so I know, what disparaging remark did I make about southerners?


It�s about manners and class. You were clearly out of line

Originally Posted by rrroae
Trust me, most of us northerners who live in the country talk just as slow and polite as you southern boys who live in rural areas.


Originally Posted by rrroae
Yeah, yeah, you southerners are perfect and all us northerners are the devil.
I've heard your song and dance routine before.




Next time try some Southern Hospitality, you arrogant, pushy, disrespectful Northerner

Originally Posted by JohnMoses
I live not too far from hundreds of Northerners. Very quiet folk.

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Originally Posted by JohnMoses
FO boys.

Battue, it gives me great satisfaction that you have injured your puzzy crying over this.

To the rest of you, If you don't like it tough schit.

Well at least ya'll aren't bashing Doug anymore. I'd say it worked.





Originally Posted by JohnMoses

1500 CC's of vagisil will fix that yankee snatch right up.



Originally Posted by JohnMoses

I didn't see anyone getting upset when rrroae made his remark about southerners.
Funny how that schit doesn't work both ways.




John, there are [bleep] on the internet. Not everyone has the dignity and class you do. You will just have to learn to ignore them.


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Quit giving in inch by inch then looking back to lament the mile behind ya and wonder how to preserve those few feet left in front of ya. They'll never stop until they're stopped. That's a fact.
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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Originally Posted by battue
Lets cut to the core of this Moses.

The reasons for, historical implications of and the social divide of that war have raged since the first shot was fired. You can debate the whats and the whys. You can take sides within the context of States rights.

One thing you can't and shouldn't do is slander/desecrate the resting place of the men, women and children who lived thru the horror. Makes no difference if they were from the North or South.

If a Northerner made the same inference to a Confederates resting place my feelings would be the same. You stepped over the line, plane and simple and it can't be justified.


I'd buy you a beer anytime.

It's not about the why, it's about respect. It's about some kid, 150 years ago, scared, tired, hungry, who thought he was doing his duty. It's about that kid, someone's son (think about that, if you have kids) getting a bullet in the gut or a bayonet in the chest, dying alone on some bloody battlefield far from home. What were his last thoughts? State's rights? The stain of slavery? No, he probably just said "Mama, where are you?" And died.

And you're pi$$ing on his grave.

So go ahead, wave your flag and stomp your foot, re-fight battles from a century and a half ago, and see what changes. In the meantime you are showing your true character which is, I must say, really base.

Do you ever understand the idea of shame? If you were a man you would.



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Yep.

Spent 3 days at Gettysburg about a month ago. Walk across the field where Pickett's charge occurred or stand on Little Round Top with Chamberlain's guys and you'll soon realize that both sides were incredibly brave men - regardless of your position on the issues. There is awe-inspiring power in those sites and graves. They are sacred - period.


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Ah come on, those Southern boys had a cake walk moving across that mile of open ground. Problem was it was a cake walk thru a dozen forms of hell.

Those in Gray hallowed that ground as much as those who wore Blue.

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Originally Posted by AB2506
Regardless of whether Moses has started Civil War 2, this thread needs to die.

23 pages of this crap?

Move on people.


how the hell did this stupid thread started by a disgruntled azzwipe, get down to the Civil War? Damned if I'll read it to find out though. shocked


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Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Originally Posted by AB2506
Regardless of whether Moses has started Civil War 2, this thread needs to die.

23 pages of this crap?

Move on people.


how the hell did this stupid thread started by a disgruntled azzwipe, get down to the Civil War? Damned if I'll read it to find out though. shocked



Disgruntled azzwipe, for once, has a partial legitimate gripe. Chooses to broadcast gripe on a public forum full of CL lovers instead of quietly handling himself.

CL issues condescending rebuttal.

Legions of azzwipe haters come out defending CL.

Legions of i dotters and t crossers point out i's weren't dotted, t's weren't crossed in this deal, azzwipe has a point.

CL admits asswipe had a point, resolve to do better.

Vortex contacts OP, issue resolved.

Legions of CL buyers report many, many thousands of $ spent, CL was pleasant while taking $.

A few indicate azzwipe isn't the only one that CL may have left a few i's undotted, t's uncrossed.

Legions of CL buyers report many, many positive customer service anecdotes w/ CL. No problems w/ CL.

Legions of anti-azzwipe suggest azzwipe was the root cause of problem.

A southerner thinks there is a communication/manners gap between Northerners/Southerners that led to this problem.

Northerners suggest that's stupid - a lot of Northerners are every bit as quiet and polite as their Southern Brethren.

John Moses steps up with this post:

Originally Posted by JohnMoses
I live not too far from hundreds of Northerners. Very quiet folk.

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Scopegate is forgotten - There is now unified hate by anti-azzwipes and i dotters/t crossers for JM.

You are now up to speed.

HTH

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Originally Posted by Canazes9
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
Originally Posted by AB2506
Regardless of whether Moses has started Civil War 2, this thread needs to die.

23 pages of this crap?

Move on people.


how the hell did this stupid thread started by a disgruntled azzwipe, get down to the Civil War? Damned if I'll read it to find out though. shocked



Disgruntled azzwipe, for once, has a partial legitimate gripe. Chooses to broadcast gripe on a public forum full of CL lovers instead of quietly handling himself.

CL issues condescending rebuttal.

Legions of azzwipe haters come out defending CL.

Legions of i dotters and t crossers point out i's weren't dotted, t's weren't crossed in this deal, azzwipe has a point.

CL admits asswipe had a point, resolve to do better.

Vortex contacts OP, issue resolved.

Legions of CL buyers report many, many thousands of $ spent, CL was pleasant while taking $.

A few indicate azzwipe isn't the only one that CL may have left a few i's undotted, t's uncrossed.

Legions of CL buyers report many, many positive customer service anecdotes w/ CL. No problems w/ CL.

Legions of anti-azzwipe suggest azzwipe was the root cause of problem.

A southerner thinks there is a communication/manners gap between Northerners/Southerners that led to this problem.

Northerners suggest that's stupid - a lot of Northerners are every bit as quiet and polite as their Southern Brethren.

John Moses steps up with this post:

Originally Posted by JohnMoses
I live not too far from hundreds of Northerners. Very quiet folk.

[Linked Image]


Scopegate is forgotten - There is now unified hate by anti-azzwipes and i dotters/t crossers for JM.

You are now up to speed.

HTH

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Thanks for that! 24 pages of posts summarized nice and neatly. wink

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not to surprise anyone, but, I could give two hairy FKs what most of you think.
you only make yourselves look like retards when you discount a legitimate gripe based on your ideas about my personality.
secondly, vortex sent me a replacement scope.
thirdly CL APOLOGIZED VIA PM... apology= wrongdoing.

lastly...SMD AND GFY, haters.


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Not to surprise you, but it is very safe to say that we care less than you do, regardless of how little it is that you care.

An apology does not equal wrongdoing. In retail, irrespective of fault, it is sometimes deemed a wise course of action when someone believes they have been wronged despite the facts to the contrary.....


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Just a little bait will bring the stupid out in this place.

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[quote=ringworm]not to surprise anyone, but, I could give two hairy FKs what most of you think.[quote]

yes you do

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