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Butt plates just about always show wear ahead of everything else, usually the top round and top screw show the worse wear, that is how they were propped up against the tree by the campfire or in the corner either at the camp of in the corner at home.No biggie I have had my smith bead blast and ceracoat several in midnight blue, they look really nice and the first thing you do not look at when you pick the 70 up is a blem! The more I look at your side mount the cooler it looks, almost that German over engineering they were so famous for! very best WinPoor
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AH, Ive got a gun story for you,yall. Late last year or early this year My wife and I were up at 2 or 3:00 am trying to get her pain under control, all I could do during this 8 mos was try and be a great caregiver, trade Winchesters on the computer and run to the farm to feed,checkup cattle,feed farm bulldogs check water well etc. As you guys know I am DIEHARD Winchester but on another gun website I ran across a FN, early 50's commercial Belgian made .270 win, the gun had a Ziss claw mounts and a German 4 or 6 power scope, the gun had a carved stock, by carved I mean fox and otter (I guess) anyhow the Gun grew on me AND my wife liked it as we learned more about the piece, An Austrian had done the stock work, it was one of the finer Mauser actions, it was in a cal. that for some unknown reason I had shot pals guns but had never owned one of. Well I got on a site to research and ask opinions and I got from 'its a piece of cat shat to 'hey guy the mounts and scope is worth the money!', folks told me to use the stock as firewood to hey man cool! I bought the gun, after trying 3 factory ammos it is almost a solid 1 " gun, the stock has really grown on me, the trigger is unlike any Ive ever used! you take a good bit of slack out,easy to feel, then take the breath and slow pull, it breaks just like the old timers say a small rod of glass. This gun will be the gun I take my first freezer buck with this year. I will not sell Winchesters to get into Mauser but I love to think of the fellow who carved stock, what it hunted in Europe even the US Military guy who brought it home to the USA ! Its got a Hensoldt-Wetzlar Dialytan scope, it has a top knurled elevation knob with a knurled set screw lock. I have never seen such a sensitive ,little bit goes a long way adjustment in my life.Wind age was dead nuts thank goodness as a couple of engraved screws move that. I will take some photos but love the gun in spite of all the ney say, poo pooers.I really doubt I will sell the gun as my wife helped me decide on 'go for it' Very best WinPoor
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That's a saaaawwweeeeetttt! .270 and really like the toes too.
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Therein lies the problem, the 270 has a lot more life left in it than the toes! very best WinPoor
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Yeah,the rifle does look better than the toes. Here is a FN Mauser .270 Win. It has a Leupold 3-9x on it. It's a funny .270. Tried 130 gr Nosler Partition/Ballistic Tip,hated them. Went to a 150 gr Nosler Partition BINGO! Loves those.
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That's a saaaawwweeeeetttt! .270 and really like the toes too. Toe fettish huh .. Boy, winpoor was right about his photos .. Love the 270 though!! Elegant European craftsmanship.. I can see why your wife gave the ok to buy it..
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BSA,those toes are worth mentioning. My wife and I have taken pics with our shoes in the pics.
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I have never seen so many stamps and proof marks on one gun in my life. if anyone has access to date codes my SN 6699 easy to remember, an old timer tells me its a C ring early 50's gun, points and shoots real nice freehanded. I will have to try the 150 gr. ammo as I grabbed a box of Rem 130 corelocs, Doubletap 130 accubonds, and Hunting Shack 130 gr berger VLD's in 130. so far rems group inch, Double tap had 2 touching and one off right, I may have well pulled it as the trigger is taking a ittle getting used to.I did not try the Bergers yet.very best winpoor
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I know what you are talking about. That's a military 2 stage that's been refined i'm sure. It would be cool to know the full story or history of your rifle..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Agreed,those rings and mounts are interesting.
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Spendy too. I was on another forum and some were saying the Zeiss claw mounts are worth about $1,500 with a similar scope..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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$1500 good grief that's a bunch of moola for those.
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AH, Ive got a gun story for you,yall. Late last year or early this year My wife and I were up at 2 or 3:00 am trying to get her pain under control, all I could do during this 8 mos was try and be a great caregiver, trade Winchesters on the computer and run to the farm to feed,checkup cattle,feed farm bulldogs check water well etc. As you guys know I am DIEHARD Winchester but on another gun website I ran across a FN, early 50's commercial Belgian made .270 win, the gun had a Ziss claw mounts and a German 4 or 6 power scope, the gun had a carved stock, by carved I mean fox and otter (I guess) anyhow the Gun grew on me AND my wife liked it as we learned more about the piece, An Austrian had done the stock work, it was one of the finer Mauser actions, it was in a cal. that for some unknown reason I had shot pals guns but had never owned one of. Well I got on a site to research and ask opinions and I got from 'its a piece of cat shat to 'hey guy the mounts and scope is worth the money!', folks told me to use the stock as firewood to hey man cool! I bought the gun, after trying 3 factory ammos it is almost a solid 1 " gun, the stock has really grown on me, the trigger is unlike any Ive ever used! you take a good bit of slack out,easy to feel, then take the breath and slow pull, it breaks just like the old timers say a small rod of glass. This gun will be the gun I take my first freezer buck with this year. I will not sell Winchesters to get into Mauser but I love to think of the fellow who carved stock, what it hunted in Europe even the US Military guy who brought it home to the USA ! Its got a Hensoldt-Wetzlar Dialytan scope, it has a top knurled elevation knob with a knurled set screw lock. I have never seen such a sensitive ,little bit goes a long way adjustment in my life.Wind age was dead nuts thank goodness as a couple of engraved screws move that. I will take some photos but love the gun in spite of all the ney say, poo pooers.I really doubt I will sell the gun as my wife helped me decide on 'go for it' Very best WinPoor WP - that's a nice one, I'd have been tempted as well. First, hope your wife is better, and that life is closer to normal for both of you. Prayers sent. I was stationed in Germany and one of last classes to get certified as a German hunter through the American Rod and Gun Clubs. The beauty of Germany and Austria were the little town master gunsmiths and the works of art they could turn out. Woodcarving on the stocks is old school talent, and a dying art in Europe, fewer and fewer new guilds are willing to dedicate the time to learn the art. Your Hensoldt-Wetzlar Dialytan scope is a good one and should out-last you. The scope is most likely silver-soldered into the scope half rings. Depending on the rings, most were just over half circles for tension on the scope, the solder did the rest of the holding. Just watch the scope over time, I've seen one or two shoot loose. The mounts and installation will set you back $500-750ish today on a rifle. The Mauser was made for mounts, the drilling firearms require the mounts to be cut into the barrel, which is where the work gets stupid expensive. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, you can't create that rifle today without a large investment, and a long search to find the components.
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AH64, I can assure you my wife is in a much better place than she was a short week after we picked that gun out.I lost her Feb 6th. Im the one left here on earth lost as a new born calf. Thanks for the prayers all the same, Im going to try and spend the rest of my days living well enough to join her one day. very best WinPoor
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