Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Winchester Collectors Non-original Pre 64 70s-controversial thread

Kirk - that is a sad tale about that '81 Marlin. I view it as ruined as well. I also see myself as the caretaker of my rifles. Someone owned them before me and someone will own them after me. I am one in a series of custodians. I feel a responsibility to care for them and not do something stupid to them. Hence, I don't adopt the philosophy of, "it' mine - I'll do whatever I want to it." I don't dispute someone's legal right in this regard, but I'll do my best to convince them otherwise. I find much of the time, pointing out that they are lowering the value works better than anything.

This is all semantics about the word "collectors." Define that and each one will have his answer.

There are different levels of collectors also. Sure I would love a M21 Grand American to use for grouse but the fact is I will never be able to afford one. I wouldn't mind though finding a nice M21 20ga that had been re-fisnished and had the chokes opened up that I could actually afford. Same goes for M70's/

Someone mentioned cars. Again I would love a mint '70 Camero SS but it would never leave the garage. I would actually enjoy a nice one that may not be original but that I could drive on occassion.

Cars and guns were meant to be used and enjoyed. I have both and still use them. The idea that nice things are left unused in the safe or garage is a myth...

Nice cars, I don't see any pristine all original model 70's there though...

Ever thought about Keystones?

I'm not much of a car guy but that Goat is beautiful!

Of course they are there and you knew it, but I will still take the bait. All are high condition low comb Model 70's. 257 Roberts, 270 Winchester 22 Hornet and 30-06. The swift hasn't been out enough to get the pictures...

Atta boy. I was expecting the table pic though . I always love the double buck pic though. That one is very cool!!

Hmmm. I only own bubba'd ones and enjoy them immensely.

Shrapnel: did you shoot the mulie in the eye?

And what's with the guy behind with a different buck in the same pic?

He has orange and you don't. ??

Questions. Questions.

M70FW, mfg in 1953, chambered in .308 WIN, 99% metal, but the varnish was flaking off - had a first class stock-smith strip the finish, restrike the checkering and rub a Tru-Oil finish on it - I like it!



M70FW, mfg in 1963, left the factory with a sloppy 30-06 SPRG chamber (early 1960's there was some bad fit and finish coming out of New Haven) - primers of factory ammo would back out upon firing. I thought about taking one thread off the barrel, but decided to make it a .270 WIN - Douglas barrel - I like it.



M70, mfg in 1961, chambered in 30-06 SPRG, had a plastic buttplate. When I was young and dumb I hunted way up in trees, sitting on little pieces of plywood I had nailed in anyway I could make them work. I sat and leaned against the truck - my rifle leaned against my shoulder with the plastic buttplate sitting on the plywood - I had to be careful that it wouldn't slip and fall - so I had a rubber pad installed in lieu of the buttplate - I still like it.



Not a M70, but a nice Winchester old shotgun made around 1937; locks tight, but was 60% blue when I got it - Stu Wright made it look new for me - I like it!

Here is another picture. My son and I shot these 2 bucks about 20 yards apart. I took the orange off for the picture. I did shoot the buck through the back of the head and it came out his eye...

Pre '64 M 70 .300 H&H with a Leupold 6x scope.

Heretofore I was reluctant to post this pre-64 Model 70, because it started out as a 270 Winchester then reworked into a 7x57 by a Wisconsin master metalsmith, Emil Koshollek.

Thanks to all for the reinforcement that this forum is for all Winchester enthusiasts.

Not sure if it's been over cleaned, but it has not been refinished or modified in any way - so it should Kosher for the "Winchester Collectors� forum

Think this baby could bring down a big buck?

Got a factory letter on it? Could be humped up

Let me add, even without a letter it would make a fine hunter. Up to medium sized deer I would say.

And, don't let anyway talk you into sending it to Turnbull. It is fine as it sits.

And no, I'm not working on my post count. I just don't think real fast. This is why I like the internet. In real life people have left the room by the time I think of what to day.

I think it is a fantastic Stillson wrench that will bring more money than any Rigid I have ever seen. Nice find and thanks for posting! very best WinPoor