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Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Dogfish Head 60 Minute, 90 Minute, and 120 Minute (when available).


Their 60 Minute is excellent. I wish it were more available locally.


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If you can get Bell's in your AO, you owe it to yourself to give their Two Hearted Ale a try. It's an excellent IPA.

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I was drinking some of this at the lake place last weekend.

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Not really a fan of IPAs

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Originally Posted by bruinruin
If you can get Bell's in your


Bells or any other craft brew back in the hills where we live ain't happnin.

Take away Bud Lite and the local economy would collapse.

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For me, Bell's Two Hearted falls into the unbalanced category.


What do you mean by unbalanced?



The maltiness and alcohol content balance out the hops. Original British IPA's had a higher alcohol ABV and malt flavor to offset the higher hop rate.

John Maier of Rogue Brewery does a good job of balancing the hops with the ABV and malt, especially with his special run beers like Rogue Glen. It has a higher hop rate, but has the malt backbone and ABV to support it. Too much hop without the malt is as sour as an old maid's kiss.


If I understand you correctly, you're saying Two Hearted Ale is too hoppy.

Not arguing with you. Just trying to follow.

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I believe it's about hop rate relative to what else is going on in the beer.

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Well, he's lost me, anyway. I like Two-Hearted Ale, and if I could taste one or two of them ones he does like, I'd have a better idea.

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I haven't tasted that one, so I can't comment on it specifically.


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Okay, I found a reference to "unbalanced" elsewhere on the 'net.

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Which simply means a hop bomb of an IPA. Focusing more on the hop flavor than the malt creating an unbalanced hop forward IPA.


So I'm guessing that when some say "unbalanced" others are saying "hoppy."

I'm going to say "hoppy" by preference because "unbalanced" makes it sound like a bad thing. To my way of thinking, a strong hop flavor makes it an India Pale Ale, rather than, say, an American Pale Ale.

BTW, the labels on Two Hearted Ale can be confusing. I've seen bottles that say both "Pale Ale" and "India Pale Ale". Someone drinking it for the first time may be surprised by the amount of hop flavor.

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Originally Posted by tjm10025


If I understand you correctly, you're saying Two Hearted Ale is too hoppy.

Not arguing with you. Just trying to follow.


There are generally three stages in brewing where hops are introduced:

- at the beginning of the boil to give the brew some bitterness to compliment the sweet of the malt

- about 15 minutes from the end of the boil to give the brew a hop flavor

- the last minute or so of the boil to give the brew hop aroma

For me, Two Hearted is heavy on the flavor hops. It obliterates the malt and leaves a strong hop finish. So to answer your question directly, yes, a bit too hoppy.


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Heady Topper = Best there is, period!!

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In the past week:

Siera Nevada Torpedo
Sierra Nevada Hoptimum (100 IBUs of Imperial goodness. Beer wimps need not apply)
Bear Republic Racer 5
Ska Modus Hoperendi

All good stuff, IMNSHO.






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A couple of months ago, Steve7x57 gave me a bottle of "Loose Cannon Hop3" IPA by Clipper City Brewing.

Very tasty, and I'd like to find some around here.

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Right now I have the following in the beer fridge.

SN Torpedo
Elysian Immortal IPA
10 Barrel Apocalypse IPA
Brew Free IPA
My House Home Brew IPA
Lagunitas Hop Stoopid

All great beers with the exception of the Brew Free IPA, It is okay but this will be the last time I buy that brand.

300mag, I cannot get Heady Topper here, you think we could work out a deal where I send you some money and you send me a 4 pack of it. I've been wanting to try it for years but never ran across any.









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I've only been able to find 1 that I enjoy, it's the Deschutes Brewery Chain Breaker White IPA.


That's ok, I'll ass shoot a dink.

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Chalk up another vote for Bell's Two Hearted ale. I first had it draft, three years ago on St Paddy's day and thought it was the most delicious beer I ever drank.

One thing that is rarely discussed is the fact that you can drink one decent IPA and have the sensory impact of drinking 8 or 10 of those pale, fizzy light beers.

Fewer trips to the john, as well.


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Fat Tug

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Driftwood Brewery
British Columbia, Canada

Style | ABV
American IPA | 7.00% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
Fat Tug is a northwest style India Pale Ale that is characterized by an intense hop profile of grapefruit & melon and restrained malt notes. At 7 % alc/vol and 80+ IBUs this beer delivers layers of aroma and flavor that is sure to satisfy anyone with a thirst for all things hoppy!


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Originally Posted by heavywalker
Right now I have the following in the beer fridge.

SN Torpedo
Elysian Immortal IPA
10 Barrel Apocalypse IPA
Brew Free IPA
My House Home Brew IPA
Lagunitas Hop Stoopid

All great beers with the exception of the Brew Free IPA, It is okay but this will be the last time I buy that brand.

300mag, I cannot get Heady Topper here, you think we could work out a deal where I send you some money and you send me a 4 pack of it. I've been wanting to try it for years but never ran across any.



heavywalker:

I am out - it is so hard to get its unbelievable. I was able to luck into some Heady Topper awhile back, but it didn't last long, LOL!!!

It can only be bought in Vermont - it can't be found anywhere here in PA. I wish it was cause it would be the only thing I drank cause its that damn good!!

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Thanks for the reply, next time you come across some remember me even if it is one can.

What I really want to do is clone the recipe. They released the recipe a while back but you need their proprietary yeast to get the brew right. If I could get my hands on a can of it I could harvest the yeast from the can and make it myself, or something that is really close.








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Originally Posted by heavywalker
Thanks for the reply, next time you come across some remember me even if it is one can.

What I really want to do is clone the recipe. They released the recipe a while back but you need their proprietary yeast to get the brew right. If I could get my hands on a can of it I could harvest the yeast from the can and make it myself, or something that is really close.


I sure will - if I ever luck into some more, I'll send some your way!!

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