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The 125 BTips did ok.. both deer ran about 40 yds but no blood.. didn't penetrate totally.. I am going to load her some 125 Accubonds and hopefully she will get full penetration and better blood trails. My box of Lehigh Controlled Chaos 110gr Supersonics just were delivered at my house.. cant wait to try them out.

What did the recovered Ballistic Tips look like?

I plan to carry 125gr BTs in mine this fall. I thought about the accubonds until I read this guys testing. Sounds like they may be a little hard for blk velocities.

http://www.300blktalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=128&t=88445

I didn't recover the bullet... she shot both of them kind of quartering to her (she hunts a stand where the deer travel a trail) and the bullet ended up in the gut cavity and the way I skin them I don't gut them very often.. lots of tissue damage and if she would have had an exit a lot of blood. Both deer were dead with in 25-40 yds.. I am also going to let her use the 125gr SST.

What I'm getting at is the Bal Tip probably didn't blow up at Blackout speed, so an Accubond isn't likely to net you much besides increased cost. With a diagonal presentation you'll probably catch whatever bullet.

My father shot a few with a 30 Herrett from a 14" barreled Contender handgun. Very Blackout like ballistics. He used the 120-130 grain Sierra and Hornady single shot pistol bullets available at the time. He got exits on broadside hits, and those bullets were softer than today's Bal Tip.

Yeah the Sierra single shot pistol was 135gr in .308 . Man that would be a great bullet to bring back for the blackout. I assume pure lead core so it was nice and soft with a thin jacket.

I emailed Noveske on the Nosler 220gr bullet, and the reply was that it's scheduled for release in the fall.

The 125 Btip didn't blow up.. Im sure if she would have hit them right behind the shoulder.. they would have dropped or got pass thrus. What I really like about this cartridge is the fact that it has very little recoil and muzzle blast.. the kiddos can get very proficient with it easily. Builds a lot of confidence in em.

I"ve put the 125 bt out of the X39 through a big pigs shoulders, around 250, at 75 yards and done just fine. Cal in, nickel size out.

I sent an email today, got no reply. Thats good to know. Looks like a good start.

Wished Barnes would make one that opens like their MZ bullets, around 180 grains and does fine down to 700 fps or so...

We ran that SSP bullet in the 30-30 contender and got zero expansion out of it on some pigs and deer. Was told by Sierra to run it harder... well the load wasn't book max, but not far off max loads, maybe a couple grains. And we tossed that idea out the window and started with 125 barnes and did just fine. I"m not sure why that sierra wouldn't open. But it never did on lung shots.

got the same fall response from Noveske this morning.

Seems late this fall and they expect Nosler to make it easy to buy at that time too! I just hope it isn't factory ammo only... but if it is, we'll try it as need be.

I wonder what a 110gr Nosler Varmageddon would do to a deer's lungs..

Or a 110 VMax?

I'd think that one would work, based on other Vmax kills

Since trying almost subsonic loads in 243, something around 1400 fps IIRC, and 80 nosler varmint BTs, and those performing just like a "normal" deer bullet I think you are onto something with the light varmint ones, they would come close to expanding I'd think at subsonic speeds.

I'd just feel better with a bit more weight behind that, if possible, but high on the list owuld be a way to find a thin jacket 100-120ish grain bullet pushed sub sonic accurately and see what gives.

Thats about the only use I've had for varmint bullets. Though I've been tempted to try 60 vmax in 223 on yotes, but have so many 75 bthps loaded taht work just fine I"ve never bought the 60s yet.

I wasn't thinking subsonic, just something to approximate the 30 Herrett my father used to kill several deer.

I killed one buck with a 300 Whisper Contender Carbine a few years ago with the 110 Gr Vmax.. I wasn't impressed with them.. not much penetration. These Lehigh 110gr Controlled Chaos bullets look mean. I am having a buddy of mine that does hog control on some farms with a 300BK out AR do some testing to see if they really do what Lehigh says.

I'd bet teh penetration would be ok though at subsonic. Most folks don't run subsonic. I don't see the reason much for the whisper supersonic...

I'd rather have an X39 if shooting supersonic in the AR

I see a big need for the Bkout/Whisper in supersonic form.. it has very little muzzleblast and recoil. That translates into an awesome kid deer rifle. In my neck of the woods a lot of people set their kids up with either a .223 or a .243 as their first deer rifle. I do my best to try and sway them the other way.. every time a youngster shows up at my farm with a .223 I know if they shoot..we are in for a long track job. The last one took an hour and a half with a behind the shoulder shot on a big doe.