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There's a Springfield range officer 9mms in the classifieds right now.
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The M&P will rust and the Glock will not. Ergonomics count for a lot. Let him try shooting both and see which one he prefers.
I carried an M&P for four years daily at work. Would not care to own one. I do own a Glock or two...magazines will be cheaper and easier to find for the Glock.
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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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The 5" M&P Pro 9mm is a sweet shooting handgun. Mine is extremely ergonomic, very accurate, light recoiling, 100% reliable to date with about 3K assorted rounds through it. Glocks work too, as do Springfield XD's.
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He's mentioned the CZ-75. How is the trigger pull weight on those? They are a traditional SA/DA action aren't they? (I've never been fond of the change in trigger pull on those, like the Beretta/M-9.) I've also heard they have a long reach to the trigger, though they feel about as good as a Hi-Power.
We'll go the range and rent what they have available to see what he likes. I can't speak for the others mentioned but the CZ75 I have is more fun than a person should have.
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I would go with the M&P, simply because that is what I have experience with, and it simply points better for me. I'm sure there is nothing wrong with the Glock as they have been around a long time, but just my choice.
If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice.
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I'm an XD guy, wish I had an XDm too, I like the ergos on the M&P and hate them on the glocks. I do not disparage any of them though as disparaging the glocks would be rather foolish. Glocks are simply quality weapons that don't feel good to me.
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I have been issued, as well as personally owned both M&Ps and Glocks. I would take a Glock every single time. The sorry mushy triggers on a stock M&P just plain suck. They of course can be swapped out with parts to make them better, but I still prefer the Glock.
For just starting out in competition, I would choose a G17 or G34, both in 9mm. Then sign up for production class, which mandates 10 rounds in mag, and evens the playing field. You can shoot production with a minimal cash outlay.
Then if he decides he is really into it, he will likely have had enough opportunities to shoot other competitors guns, that he can make an informed decision, as to a full blown competition/race gun.
Personally, I am still shooting Glocks and single stack 1911s, 20 years later...
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For most competitions, I use my P-14 but my favorite is a custom Commander put together by King's Gunworks back when they knew what they were doing in the 70's. S&W revolver rear sight, crisp trigger, tightly fitted bushing, etc. I won A-class in our club for several years running with it.
The only striker-fired handgun I have is a sub-compact XD-9.
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Well, he didn't like either the Glock or the M&P. He liked my FEG Hi-Power clone and his Kimber 1911 in .45. He did shoot the M&P better than the Glock. The range didn't have a CZ-75 to rent, so maybe we'll try one of those out since it is close to the Hi-Power ergonomically. He did think he'd be faster on recovery, etc with the 9mm to start with, versus the .45.
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The M&P will rust and the Glock will not. Ergonomics count for a lot. Let him try shooting both and see which one he prefers.
I carried an M&P for four years daily at work. Would not care to own one. I do own a Glock or two...magazines will be cheaper and easier to find for the Glock. Don't bet your next paycheck that the Glock won't rust. They don't do the tenifer anymore.
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