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Dumb sperm are strong swimmers in your family pool.
"Dear Lord, save me from Your followers"
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Denial? That's fair; I've certainly been there. The important thing is that you're convinced in your own mind of your superiority to those who so foolishly think themselves superior to others.
Humph... "Those people"...
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Campfire Oracle
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Not to say that something that we may call ''God'' does not exist, but what is the evidence that supports a justified belief in any form or version of God? It's called faith and it's not easy for many to understand. It is exactly that, and nothing more.
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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It's my observation that religion is a money making business, selling salvation. I seldom see church leaders living humbly and in poverty. The major religions, Baptist, Catholic, Lutheran. Methodist, etc are major tax exept corporations with the local churchs as franchises.
Jim Didn't read the whole thread and will not. I can tell you the quote is not true with respect to Baptists. It would be impossible to get a group of Baptist churches to agree on a mission statement for ANY corporate umbrella. There simply is no Baptist "tax exempt corporation" and no "franchises". The Baptist churches I am personally experienced with are independent PERIOD. There are local and regional Baptist associations (i.e. Southern Baptist Convention) that cooperate on various projects and initiatives but no hard and fast international Baptist constitution that is followed. I can also tell you Baptists are not perfect; just take a look at me. However, acts that are tolerated, even accepted as 'normal' in certain other 'religions', are reason to be kicked out the back door of the churches I have been a part of with no waiting period, no counselling. That's one thing that made me just shake my head when the pope made his remark about 2% of Catholic clerics being pedophiles. He didn't say how many are KNOWN practicing homosexuals. How many of these pedophiles has he personally and publicly excommunicated?? How many of the known practicing homosexuals has he removed from authority?? But I digress, and not being Catholic, Methodist or Lutheran will stick to my personal experiences with the Baptist church.
“When Tyranny becomes Law, Rebellion becomes Duty”
Colossians 3:17 (New King James Version) "And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."
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Unlike you, azzhole, I value the truth. Spoken like a true 'Christian'. You value your own opinion and your own prejudices...those are very different from the truth. You know how I know I'm on the right path? "Professing themselves to be wise..." You should know the rest of it. I have your disdain. laffin' You wish. I love when Atheists preach the Bible! Keep it up, I always enjoy the entertainment. laffin' Based on the hate that exemplifies your posts on this forum, it's likely that you "enjoy" much of anything Barry. laffin' some more
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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Not to say that something that we may call ''God'' does not exist, but what is the evidence that supports a justified belief in any form or version of God? Don't they have double rainbows in Australia? What more proof do you need? Have fun in hell. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Sorry RH I wasn't necessarily directing anything at you personally. I have Travis on ignore and only knew what he said because someone quoted him. I was being sarcastic.
If I were a woman trapped in a man's body and lived in an alternate reality, I'd ignore me too. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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How do you know you aren't?
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The world is a bit different than a little island in Alaska. What you don't know would fill VOLUMES. I only hope I'm around to see the fall, cuzz I will laugh and laugh.
Maybe if you'd stayed up there, and found a Bible-believing church, you wouldn't be a bitter, self-loathing alky.
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Not to say that something that we may call ''God'' does not exist, but what is the evidence that supports a justified belief in any form or version of God? Don't they have double rainbows in Australia? What more proof do you need? Have fun in hell. Travis Preach on.
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As an earlier poster said, if you honestly seek and pray to know God, He promises to reveal Himself to you. That is pretty darn simple, and very non-threatening. If there's no God, you wouldn't experience any change whatsoever, and life goes on. No worries right? It's not like you signed for a car loan you can't make the payments on or had an arm taken off at the socket.
He made a promise in the Bible, ask and you will receive, seek and you will find, knock and the door will be opened to you. That's actually a guarantee.
Our way on this earth is to understand everything with our mind. God's way is to be known through your heart. He speaks to your heart. Similar to your conscience saying, "Don't steal that!", or "Pull over and help those people". God does reveal Himself, it's a guarantee to those who really want to know.
That time in my life came about 15 years ago. I had a thriving business, 10-20 employees, lots of money, was healthy, and by most worldly criteria happy. What I didn't know then is that I had people praying for my life. People that knew my life in God wasn't about all that. I felt in my heart that there was something missing, that this was not my best life. Keep in mind, I had success as we call it here. Long story, ended up selling most everything and traveling around some, praying for God to reveal Himself to me, if He was real. A year later I was baptised and sealed for life. There's no explaining it, but there is living it. Usually fairly poorly in my case, but undeniably I will never be the same man I was. I am different from the inside out, not because I am strong and made my mind up to "do better" or "be different", but because God threw my old man out, and gave me new life inside. NOT perfected!! Just changed. Anybody that knew me then and knows me now, knows I'm not the same man I was. For people that need a nudge, there are books that may help. Lee Strobles "the Case for Christ" might be one. He examines all evidence from a non-believers point of view. Also, perhaps the biggest case can be made, if billions of changed lives aren't enough, in the written and fulfilled prophesies in the Bible. I'm pretty sure if you or I made 6 predictions we stand a pretty small chance they'd come true, even with intimate knowledge of the situation. However, I believe there's about 330 written predictions about Jesus that were fulfilled in his coming. Scholars, is that number right? Anyway, very hard to predict much of anything and be right often, but to predict hundreds and not miss one, some made hundreds of years before Jesus was alive. The description of his crucifixion was made before crucifixion was even invented.
Impossible odds, unless the Bible is true and God is who the Bible says He is.
So study if you want, ask if you want to know, but why bother with insincerity in your heart? You'll hear nothing (in my opinion). God has the final word on whether He responds to you or not if you ask with no sincerity in your asking.
I can only tell you that I am not the same, as I said, not PERFECTED, just changed. It's easy for me to believe, it takes no effort the further along you get. The mysteries of why and how unfold countless times on scenarios that you couldn't make sense of before.
The Bible does say that spiritual matters are spiritually discerned, and that the gospel is foolishness to those that are perishing. In other words, it is perfectly normal and expected for the gospel to sound like garbage, until that blessed day when you receive your sight for the first time. Like I said, for me, it's been about 15 years ago.
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How do you know you aren't? Don't ask absurd questions. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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How do you know you aren't? Don't ask absurd questions. Travis G'morning Dave. I always smile when I know you're around.
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Not to say that something that we may call ''God'' does not exist, but what is the evidence that supports a justified belief in any form or version of God?
The idea of the opposite of God is nothing. What faith it takes to believe everything came from nothing. The very fact you can ask the question is evidence for the God of the Bible.
"Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation." Everyday Hunter
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How so you know he's around? It could be his female trapped in his body from a parallel universe self typing right now.
Why else would he have to go back and review what he said last night?
Hmmmm.... Where's Gus when we REALLY need him?
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How so you know he's around? It could be his female trapped in his body from a parallel universe self typing right now.
Why else would he have to go back and review what he said last night?
Hmmmm.... Where's Gus when we REALLY need him? The female Dave is the bitchy one.
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Thou shalt not kill
How many thousands of years has the catholic and protestant Christians violated this commandment in the name of God and Christianity? More properly translated murder. There is a time to kill as it plainly states. I think it was proper and good for the Waldensians to take up the sword to defend themselves from slaughter. Many other examples could be put forth including the good Covenenters of Scotland. The greatest murderer of all time would be that good socialist Stalin, atheist that he was. Atheist, anti-Christian societies have sprouted up from time to time; the Communist block societies and France at the time of the French revolution. I cannot imagine why the Christian haters are not beating down the doors to live in such places.
Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven.
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"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Mahatma Gandhi Quoting Ghandi??? Yeah, it's good to listen to the counsel of wise men and add to our learning. I have heard this quote many times spoken by smug concieted Hindus. As opposed to those spoken by smug, conceited, elitist 'Christians'. They were the ones who put forth the Declaration of Independence in committee and later drafted the Constitution. You mean the ones who came up with all of that good stuff about freedom and all men being created equal...while being slave owners themselves, or endorsing slavery. If you hate Christians why not move to Bombay or Delhi or Calcutta and immerse yourself in the culture of Ghandi? Why don't you, IF you profess to be a 'Christian'...simply do what Jesus commanded and besides loving God with everything you have...also love others as much as you love yourself. Your 'think the way I do and feel the way I do or leave the country' attitude is both predictable and lame. Call me lame if you wish... But I think you owe a tip of the hat to the better aspects of Christianity that added to what became America... and an America that you enjoy residing in. It is concieted hypocrisy to quote Ghandi and not want to live over there in that land literally covered in human and animal dung, without reliable clean potable water and demon idols on every corner. You just hate Christians because you enjoy hating them. Like most folks. You don't have an argument when you consider the broad sweep of world history in the last 2000 years. The land of human beings is a broken sinful fallen mess everywhere you go. Those places where Christian grace has affected some of the folks are the better places in the world. No one can deny it. Moslems and Hindus don't have a Salvation Army that will come along and pull a drunk out of the gutter, clean him up, regenerate his soul and set him free.
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Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven.
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Moslems and Hindus don't have a Salvation Army that will come along and pull a drunk out of the gutter, clean him up, regenerate his soul and set him free. They'll set a soul free, but it comes at the end of a sword or through a car bomb.
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Not to say that something that we may call ''God'' does not exist, but what is the evidence that supports a justified belief in any form or version of God? There is no solid proof. If there was there would be no need for faith.
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