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Yup, that's just what we need to do, is to give police departments the vague right to torture people as they see fit- Fits right in with the constitution. And, there should be no problem since the police never abuse their authority, right?

Why call it "botched"?..
they die in the end,so they suffer a bit,what about the people they killed or raped.....

If 'they' want quicker deaths just drop the convicts off at a VA hospital.

That would be more certain than quick. They'll die in the waiting room.

You miss the point entirely, Royce. The argument is that the chemicals being used are increasingly hard to obtain, inefficient, possibly agonizing, and therefore may fall under the prohibited heading of "cruel."

Nighthawk and I suggest an easily obtained, highly efficient, and reputedly pleasant drug in their stead.

If you want to discuss the death penalty in general, lethal injection in particular, or whether the police have too much power, that's a different horse to flog. (The police don't do executions, btw. The prison system does.)

YES ... in fact give them a piece of rope and let the problem take care of itself.

Reminds me of a conversation I had with an engineer that works where my wife works. He happens to be a non-Muslim from Qatar. He tell me when he was young and growing up in his homeland, when someone got caught stealing, they would chop his hand off...publicly. He said when someone was convicted of murder or rape, they held a public beheading. He claims he witnessed numerous heads rolling around on "the courthouse lawn". They didn't wait years to do it either...more like days.

Efficient, no doubt.

I sure don't advocate living under Sharia Law, but execution is execution, not some P.C. game.

DF

there was quite an article on this execution in today's paper locally.
It would seem he was knocked out rather quickly to the point of being brain dead, the fact the rest of his body took a little while offended the squeamish.
The daughter of one of the victims said it pretty well, this pukes death was nothing compared to what he did to my family.
I didn't know it till today, but there is a museum at florence where these things are conducted, four ropes on display used to hang various people.

An expert anesthesiologist said today that the execution did not sound botched at all. It was just a typical out come for the drug combination.

Is he dead?

If so

Sounds like it worked

Snake

Still, there are better drugs to use. They could use midazolam (Versed) to put em' to sleep, Pavulon or Norcuron (skeletal muscle paralytics) to paralyze their muscles of respiration, and potassium chloride to stop the heart.
Which drugs are the prisons having problems acquiring...?

Don't forget about Propofol, Michael Jackson's favorite...

They could probably find ample supplies of heroin or cocaine INSIDE the prison.

Nah, not FDA approved...

Although known to work, just not Kosher...

DF

FDA approved gets me, like we need to worry about continuing health problems.

Supply has been a problem because pharmaceutical companies don't want the bad PR from the more fanatical anti-death penalty crowd. As I understand it the European manufacturers won't sell drugs to be used in an execution. I believe the drugs used in the "botched" execution are undisclosed by law for that reason.

What better than a narcotic - heroin - to fall into the arms of Morpheus forever?

Just OD him on morphine.

They OD'd him on Dilaudid (they used Versed too)...took a good while evidently.

I agree. FDA approval would mean whatever they are using is not dangerous. IT'S A FRICKING EXECUTION, MORONS!

Ditto the requirement to use sterilized needles. HUH?

Gov Brewer ought to declare (by "executive action" - how's that for both a stick in the eye to Obama AND a delicious pun!) that henceforth all executions in Arizona will use narcotic overdoses.

An influential federal appeals court judge sitting on the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, appointed in 1985 by President Reagan... has had enough and is fed up with the current capital punishment system. Publicly saying that we should go back to the firing squad and stop trying to mask or disguise the brutal nature of capital punishment! Saying that the guillotine is another fool proof method, but doesn't think the public would be willing to go that far. But that while he supports the death penalty, we should not be using drugs meant for individuals with medical needs to carry out executions trying to make executions look serene and beautiful, like something any one of us might experience in our final moments!


Phil