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Folks like me? Talk is cheap, on the internet.

I volunteer my time, which is my most valuable resource. I teach hunter education so more people can hunt. I've helped approximately 700 students get their cards, and it's a pretty significant time commitment. Not only in class but to attend seminars and stay current.

I'm a life member of RMEF, a hunting and conservation organization. I've volunteered my time for several habitat improvement projects to promote hunting. I've had a few hunting articles published in their magazine.

I'm a member of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers

I'm a member of Trout Unlimited.

I've had letters to the editor in support of hunting published in newspapers here and in San Antonio when I lived there.


I'm not afraid to put that out there because these are hunting organizations. You won't say what organizations you belong because they're not hunting organizations.

Like I said, you can search the entire New Mexico Cattle Grower's Association website and not find the words "hunt" or "hunting." Not even once. That seems odd, seeing as you you say it's a pro-hunting organization.

Speaking of which, if you're such a dedicated hunter, how come a search of your posts turns up nothing in any forum that has "hunting" in the title? General big game, deer hunting, elk hunting long-range hunting, and so on.

Far as I can tell, you only post in this forum, also known as the freak show.

Look.

You and I have tangled way more than I ever should have let happen.

It's obvious that you are pissed off. Your posts reflect that emotion.

If you remember, it was YOU that said I didn't do anything but preach to the choir here...

And, yes. I'm guarded about what I put out there. Who wouldn't be? I have not revealed a minute fraction of the footprint I have in the hunting and shooting industry to you...

But, you say there's no plan to screw anyone out of anything. That we are all delusional.

A few years ago I would have been right there with ya, saying that people that thought they were out to take our hunting privileges and gun rights away didn't stand a chance. But, if you don't see the progress they have made in doing just that, then you are the one that's delusional.

You may or may not draw a paycheck from the government, but it sure is funny how you jump into threads here to defend government and their actions when they trespass on us.

Just keep thinking I'm a dumb cowboy. Nothing to see here.

This is just part of the long term leftist anti-gun agenda.

Equate the 2nd amendment with hunting.

Then do away with hunting.

I'm not pissed off. I just get tired of guys who think that posting a political opinion on this forum to be read by a bunch of guys who share the exact same opinions is some sort of accomplishment, or "taking a stand."

It ain't.



Defend the government? More bullsh**. Why don't you explain how anything I've said here can be construed as defending the government.

I don't draw a paycheck from the govt, never did. How about you?



Yes, that's exactly what I said. And you've replied with nothing of substance.




Now there you go again. I've said neither. What I said was, these screwball's plan to control wildlife populations with predators only doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell. Because it's unworkable and in short order would disrupt our food supply, and the public won't stand for that.



Never said that, but if you want to play that game, be my guest.

You are arguing with yourself at this point.

Still an Obama Supporter?

Well, it's not surprising you tossed that out there.

You've already said I was a government worker, and that I defended the government, neither of which are true.

Which makes you a liar.

Good job.

Better than a complete asswhole.



I do remember you said that Obama supporters are the new niqqers. So make that fit.

You remember that huh? Why don't you find it and post it. F'ing liar.




I think you've proven it's possible to be both.....

But tell me, why is it that such a hardcore hunter as yourself never posts on the hunting forums?

Here's what you said.



So, I have to post where YOU think I ought to post to have validity in what I say as a hunter? That's hilarious.

You and Buzz can post pictures til the cows come home about what great white hunters you are.

But, until you wake up and smell the roses about our public land hunting and gun rights being at risk, then you are indeed as stupid as you appear.

Rockinbar,
I would bet money that Smokepole is a pro. Green. Member of Backcountry H and A, the astroturf group founded because Pew Trust blew getting sportsmen on board for the roadless initiative?
BHA, which gets heavy funding from WCF which in turn is funded mostly by six foundatons working in tandem, cross-funding one anothers' projects?
A few greens like to hunt, but don't seem to realize there's not going to be a darn thing to hunt if Foreman's predators keep chowing on the game populations. They think there's gonna be a wildlife PARADISE if all those miners, loggers ranchers farmers trophy homers all just go away and they're the last ones standing. No -- the REAL greens, the leftie totalitarians, will come for you too, Smokey.

LOL, you do realize the difference between saying "Obama supporters are the new Niqqers," and "Obama supporters" is the new "Niqqer-lover" don't you?

My point in saying that was that people like you use the two in the same way, just like you did with me.

You have no facts, so you toss out "Obama supporter."

And that was after you said I was:

1) A government worker;

2) Against multiple use of public land; and

3) Defending the government.

All of which are lies.

You're a lying, pathetic POS.

And I doubt you're even a hunter. Do you know why I say that?

Because the hunting forums on this site are loaded with great information. Yet you never post there.

How any person who calls himself a hunter could come on this site and confine himself to this particular forum is beyond me.

And telling.

A professional greenie?

How much you want to bet on that Dave?

You guys crack me up. You can't comprehend how someone could be a member of BHA and not be an absolute total whacked out "greenie." And supporter of predator re-introduction.

Why don't you pull out some of the archives on wolf reintroduction and see if BuzzH and I were on the same page.

It'll be entertaining.

Buzz and I have divergent opinions on that. But I will say this--BuzzH is a hell of a hunter, and puts his money where his mouth is, as far as spending his time on things that matter to him. More than I can say for most on this thread.

Well, Azzwipe...

I'll be sure and conform to reasons why you think I should visit certain areas of this site. Right away, Sir!


I don't reckon it ever occurred to you that perhaps after spending years on such places, that someone might get tired of answering newbie questions and seeing the repetitive nature of them, and may just want to hang out and be a grumpy old man, along with the rest of the crew?

I will say this though, for someone that teaches Hunter Education, you must get their Journal? I'm slightly hurt that you missed a couple of articles I wrote for that publication...

You know, everything isn't in a neat little file that you would put it in. You may not actually know everything about everything. Or everyone. Heck, you can't even tell when someone is jerking your chain.

But, rest assured, that I don't need nor want your approval to keep doing what I'm doing.

You may not be a liberal, but some reason, we keep winding up on the opposite sides of an argument. There has to be a reason for that. Or maybe not. It could be that you actually ARE stupid enough to believe the horseschidt you posted about, through rose colored glasses in this thread earlier.

The rest of the folks are a bit worried they won't have a place to hunt before long, or anything to shoot it with either.

If you don't think those very things are threatened to the limits right now, then there is no help for you.

And you can't. Because you don't have any.

No, I DON'T. Not here. Not for you.

Can't and Don't are two different words amigo.

Unlike you, and your compadre that post strings of dead animals to prove your dick is bigger than mine, I don't HAVE to do that to know mine is bigger than yours.

You ARE grand entertainment though. I'll give you that much.

You just can't help yourself, can you. Show me where I said hunting and shooting are not threatened.

I did say, the tide is turning. Which I believe to be true.

I did say, hunting is not threatened by these particular nut cases, in my opinion. They're just too far out there to convince anyone to join their cause.

So, which articles did you write for the hunter ed journal?

I'd like to check them out. PM me if you don't want the information public.

Same excuse all big talkers use.

I'm not the one that started this game of Tu Madre. You are.

The reason I am not posting pictures is that when I do, every anti hunter, SOB out there will connect the dots to who I am and what I do and say.

There are folks here at the campfire that know me, and have been hunting with me. And they know the hunting and shooting industry professional affiliations I have.

So, you are free to believe what you like.

GFY. Liberal.

Tell you what. Any time you think you're man enough to meet and say that face-to-face, you just let me know.

The hippies gutted Oregon with the Spotted Owl, so now they're going to try their luck with the California Condor and mandated "lead free" ammo. Oregon already has declining hunting numbers (and revenue) so introducing an overgrown turkey vulture should give them another victory.