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I like the butt plate on that 30-30.

I have a '99 Savage 30-30 takedown with a tip off mount. I have owned Winchester and Marlin. Winchester is by far the worst. They rattle a lot. Marlin is well made, but heavy. I have used the 99' 30-30 a few times and it is OK., but I would rather use my .300 Savage.

Was in the deep woods on a foggy morning, watching a nice fork horn moving toward me. I was hoping to bag the 10 pointer I'd been dancing with all season but really wanted some meat in the freezer.

Anyway, I watched him move in to about 20 yards. I only had a single round. After a moment of consideration I raised my 94 to port arms and shook it real hard. The buck's eyes rolled up and I guess he had a heart attack.

There are several reasons the Model 94 and the .30-30 are legends. Being able to rattle down some grub is just one of them.

I got the 10 pointer 2 days later with a butt stroke. Had to use my bullet the day before to foil a bank robbery.

Dan

Yeah I know. It's really the standard story for m94's in 30-30.

With other chamberings, sometimes you have to toss an empty toward the animal/bank robber, and they either give up the ghost or offer to wax your car.

I was sold on the platform/cartridge after it single-handedly ended the cold war by collapsing the USSR.

30-30 M94 for President!

just finished that one. butt stock was broke by the wanna be ninja I got it from. not bench friendly with top end loads.

Good stuff for a butt stroke though.

Never had anyone offer to wax my car that I recall, but my hearing isn't what it used to be.

wonder if a Stevens 44 1/2 is strong enough for a .30-30?

maybe a 32-40?

Question of metallurgy maybe? The CPA 44-1/2; yes. The original, I dunno.

LMAO

Was a true story.

Noe Schitt.

Sorry I didn't back to you. Stomach virus/food poisoning had me laid out for a couple days.

I shoot plain base (PB) bullets of 150 grains in plinking loads of 1000-1400fps. Anything above and beyond that gets a bullet designed for a gas check (GC) and a gas check gets installed. PB bullets are cast from an an alloy that yields a hardness of 8-10bhn. Heavy hunting bullets are 10-14 bhn, cast from wheel weights and not water quenched or heat treated as I want to guarantee expansion at the impact velocity of 16-1800 fps that you get from a .30/30 cast load at 100 yards or beyond. I used to worship at the altar of hard cast bullets until I found that proper bullet fit and a good lube will allow fine accuracy, no leading, and clean killing from a relatively soft bullet.

What was that rather hilarious debate a few years ago right here regarding bullets that "pencil through"? Well, the only time I had a bad experience of that nature was 35 years ago with 180 grain round nose cast bullets made from monotype (hard as sin, probably 21-25bhn), driven at .30/30 velocity from an '06. It took four of them driven through a dink's chest to kill it- it kept getting back up. Heartsick, I almost gave up on cast bullets for hunting, until I analyzed the problem. Switching to softer alloys and minding my P's and Q's when selecting/sizing bullets and their alloys made the difference.

Funny story: Back in 2001, I hired a plumber to come in and get my newly purchased deer camp plumbed out. I got a call at work a few days into the project:

"This is Dave, your plumber."

"Yes, Dave."

"Sorry to bother you, but I saw something you probably need to be aware of."

"Yes, what is it?"

"Well, I started hearing shooting outside and I went out and there was your neighbor up the road. He was in his bathrobe and his underwear and he was out on his deck firing at a herd of deer that were on your property. There was about seven of 'em."

"Yes, he's prone to that."

"Well, Sir, he ran out of bullets in his 30-30 and went back inside. The deer didn't pay him no mind. A little later he came back out and started firing at the deer again."

"Did he hit anything?"

"I don't think so. The deer didn't seem to care, but he did finally manage to make them run off. He ran through a box or more."

"Yes," I said. "That's R____, and I probably need to talk to him about it, but he never seems to hit anything. Thanks for letting me know."

Indians matter. Arrows not so much.

Yep, tell that to the handful of deer that have met my 32-20 and a few pigs and javelina too... none survived, none traveled very far....

Sling a Judo head at a hog and let me know how that pans out.

Lyman 311041. It's heavy, weighing 176 gr. with a GC.

Or this. It works on everything.

311041? Right. Every time.



The other right one is some sort of 7mm bullet that tripped in a box of hula hoops. 285something or another...

BD

well, shucks. I got outbid on the auction, anyway

I have run a 44� in .32-40 with 170 jacketed loads up to 1900 fps. Nothing failed, including the doe I shot with it

The CPA would be appealing. Not cheap but certainly a quality piece.

Did ya try shakin' the gun at the doe? Maybe not, those old 44-1/2's don't rattle much.