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A friend of mine purchased a Rem 700 in 300 RUM a few years ago. He hunts Elk with it and some of his shots are quite long, 500+ yards.
He wants use my equipment and load his own ammo in order to save money and to improve accuracy.
He asked me what Bullets to purchase, 180gr or a 200gr? Told him I duno, am not a Long Range Elk Hunter.
Thought I would ask you guys for some advice. What bullet weight and design do you recommend for this type of Hunting?
I'm thinking 180gr Accubond, but he feels the need for a 200gr?
Thanks
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I took a buddy on his first (rifle) elk hunt 2 years ago. He used a 700 xcr in 300 RUM loaded with 200 AB's. They did the trick with authority. Would the 180 have worked? I think so...but why not use the 200? Made me think about trying them in my 300 wby
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I used Barnes 180's in mine. Whatever he decides make sure they are premium bullets because if he gets a shot in the woods at less than 100 yards, you need something that will hold together. IMHO this is one place where monometals really shine but NP's or A-frames would probably work too. I don't think there is an elk that will know the difference in 20 grains of bullet.
BTW my 180gr Barnes turned 3400fps MV. Reach out and touch someone!
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200gn Accubond and 94gn of Retumbo over the 215 primer.
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I don't have a 300 RUM but if I did I would use 190 grn Nosler LR Accubonds
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I currently use 180 gr. Swift Scirocco's in mine. The elk don't like it much at all.
The 200 gr. AB has some impressive ballistics, but it comes with a lot of blast and recoil. The 180 gr. Scirocco or AB is a perfect combo for me personally, but if a guy didn't mind the recoil of the 200 gr. AB it would be a great choice.
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I used to use the 200 gr accubond. It worked well on several elk and I never found a bullet until I shot a cow at 560 yds. While it may be Nosler's highest BC bullet is does have considerable wind drift compared to what I believe is the ultimate LR bullet and perfect match for the 300 RUM, the Berger 230 gr Match Hybrid Target. The BC of the 230 hybrid is .743 and it has been shown to be a great big game bullet. I shot my cow elk at 250 yds with a high double shoulder shot that dropped her in her tracks. The bullet exited with a excellent wound channel. ![[Linked Image]](http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb4/RossLeggett/2013elkbulletdamage011_zpsd71436c4.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb4/RossLeggett/2013elkbulletdamage009_zps8843d1c6.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb4/RossLeggett/2013elkbulletdamage003_zps740d22c7.jpg) One could argue that my one elk with this bullet is not enough information to conclude it is good or bad choice for elk. Here are two threads that I think would convince someone to use them: http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f19/230gr-berger-used-africa-success-138852/ http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f19/berger-230-300-otm-hybrid-terminal-results-80283/
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Would the 180 have worked? I think so... No way, not enough gun or bullet.
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Either/or. In a RUM, with shots to 500, Any solid bullet 180-200 would be good. I'd go 200AB if I was him. Not for need, but for the smack factor at 500. Partitions would be good too.
At RUM speed, the ABLR are not awesome, I am guessing. Nosler is a great company, but 1300fps expansion and 3200fps impact velocity on a 400-800lb animal seems beyond the limits of copper and lead. Just a guess though, based on reports I've read from the field.
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I wouldn't rule out the 180BT.
I have used the 180 bt, 165ab, 180ab and 200 ab with good results.
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Call me old-fashioned, but I have run 180 NPs over H1000 for 10 years now. They group so tight I've never had reason to try anything else. Killed elk from 80 to 550 yards with it. I don't seek out long range shots on purpose, but based on plinking out well beyond those ranges, I'd confidently take a longer shot on an elk in the right conditions. I always read the .300 RUM threads as I come across them and don't think you'd go wrong with any of the bullet types recommended here.
Lots of elk are killed with bullets/calibers smaller than that so I'd say a 180g is plenty. I'm a velocity fan myself so would pick that over a 200 or heavier for elk. I have several buddies who love the 168g bullets in their .30 magnums for elk.
Pick any of the above. Personally I'd pick two from whatever you can actually consistently purchase locally, run a ladder test on each, and go with whichever is tighter.
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either is fine but whatever you pick go premium. no cc bullets
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Call me old-fashioned, but I have run 180 NPs over H1000 for 10 years now. They group so tight I've never had reason to try anything else. Killed elk from 80 to 550 yards with it. I don't seek out long range shots on purpose, but based on plinking out well beyond those ranges, I'd confidently take a longer shot on an elk in the right conditions. I always read the .300 RUM threads as I come across them and don't think you'd go wrong with any of the bullet types recommended here.
Lots of elk are killed with bullets/calibers smaller than that so I'd say a 180g is plenty. I'm a velocity fan myself so would pick that over a 200 or heavier for elk. I have several buddies who love the 168g bullets in their .30 magnums for elk.
Pick any of the above. Personally I'd pick two from whatever you can actually consistently purchase locally, run a ladder test on each, and go with whichever is tighter.
Good luck!
H1000 is the Aussie powder AR2217 which I tried extensively when the RUM first appeared. It was the absolute best powder for that cartridge in the late 90's and will still do a terrific job today and yes, accuracy was commonly 3 shot clusters in the .5" range in the several rifles I tested it. John
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I'm running a 200gr AB in mine, over 92gr retumbo, and a winchester magnum primer. Accuracy is superb. I've only killed a few deer and a black bear with mine, but they all died right quick.
Oh, and believe it or not, deer bite. Fairly hard.
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I use nothing but the 180 gr Accubond in my 300 RUM. It will get it done.
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I've used both 180s and 200s on game in mine. Both work really well. Currently using 200gr LRX bullets and have taken a bull bison so far with them.
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180gr Swift Sciroccos worked fine in mine.
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A friend of mine purchased a Rem 700 in 300 RUM a few years ago. He hunts Elk with it and some of his shots are quite long, 500+ yards.
He wants use my equipment and load his own ammo in order to save money and to improve accuracy.
He asked me what Bullets to purchase, 180gr or a 200gr? Told him I duno, am not a Long Range Elk Hunter.
Thought I would ask you guys for some advice. What bullet weight and design do you recommend for this type of Hunting?
I'm thinking 180gr Accubond, but he feels the need for a 200gr?
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