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Been playing with these since I got my 7 lrm.... they've shown potential, but every time I think I'm on to something, the third shot is 'out'. My Smith said to try another bullet add they were doing that to him and other guys with his rifles. Had anyone experienced this? These are from today.
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What is your OAL? If you start by kissing the lands and seat deeper by .005 they should start to group better as long as your brass is concentric. If brass is not concentric not much will help. It follows the computer adage..junk in is junk out..
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That is a bullet jacket issue, send them back to nosler and tell them they are junk, or throw them in a lake and try your luck with a different lot.
were they 2nds?
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I've heard that some rifles fire the first bullet on a cold barrel slightly outside the group of the subsequent shots - is this the case here? Oops, reread your initial post - it's the third shot that wanders.
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Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk. That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied. Well?
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- Greg
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I started with a kiss, then .010 off. Groups got better the farther away I got. I need to keep testing with a bigger jump, maybe that will help.
Heavywalker, why do you think that is a jacket issue?
They Are not 2nds.
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Yes -
If you are only 0.01 off, I'd then try .04 and then 0.07. Refine from there.
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Scope, scope mounts, scope rings.
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Scope is a hd5 zeiss, ring/bases are one piece talley lw's I lapped myself.
Stick, I thought bedding too.
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Oh it's bedding..................(hint)
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Jacket issue is rightt shoot five and bet 3 are in and 2 out
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You guys really know your stuff.
This is hilarious!...........
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Scope is a hd5 zeiss, ring/bases are one piece talley lw's I lapped myself.
Stick, I thought bedding too. Don't know if it relates to your problem but there have been a few threads on lapping Talley LW's and it seem to be a no no with them
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Spin drift most likely. Combined with inferior bedding and hard jackets will do that every time. Are you sure it's not holding one and throwing two? Just thinking out loud here....
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Well, since the first two are usually nearly giving, I would think that it's thrusting the third.
My talleys on my 257 are lapped as well, never had an issue with them.
I just lapped these rings, our was gong the range thing before I lapped them.
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Bedding.....................(grin)
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Stick, I got it.
Asked the Smith about that."I don't think so, out came out pretty well."
I'm taking it to him this weekend, as the predator action isn't ejecting properly. I'll have him check it out to.
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Tell him I said so.
Laughing.............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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