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Cooper ST Maxx or Goodyear DuraTrac. Had em both and both are fantastic tires.
The ST Maxx is heavy but the sidewall is STOUT! The DuraTrac doesn't have as stiff of a sidewall and is lighter. I went with the ST Maxx this go round just for that reason
I would steer very clear of the Duratracs if you have a lot of rocks where you drive. Had a set on my Tacoma double cab 4x4. Didn't have a lot of miles on them. Had 3 out of 4 sidewall gashes / punctures on an elk hunt last year in a matter of days. They were the "c" rated Duratracs, but I was not going to try it again with the "e" rated tires. When I bought them, they were a fairly new tire without a lot of real world reviews. Google told the story when I got back. They're known for their sidewall issues now. Lost one on the hunt to a 3/8" wet stick. Right through the sidewall. Lost tire since nobody will patch a sidewall. When they took the tires off I could not believe how thin they were. Pathetically thin. They were pretty decent in the mud and in the rain, snow, ice. But they SUCK if you drive anywhere near anything sharp. Arizona's rocks ate those things alive. Same exact roads, trip after trip, many miles, with Bridgestone MT's, Firestone MT's, and now the Goodyear MTR's, and not a single issue. I went with the Goodyear MT/R Kevlars this time around. If you consider the Duratracs, don't even think about the "c" rated tire.
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Those look about ideal! And, they look a LOT Like the Toyo MT's.
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I put a set of Goodyear Authorities on my Toyota last summer. I couldn't believe the crap I drove through last elk season after Colorado had all that rain. Great traction in the wet stuff and good on rocks. They're a little loud on pavement, but they're pretty cheap at Walmart. I think around $180 for a 265/75-16.
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+1 or Maxxis Bighorns running on my Jeep now. http://www.maxxis.com/catalog/tire-12-104-bighorn-mt-762Most of the tires posted here so far are for suburban dwellers that need to go for bread and milk. JMHO
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I really like Firestone' Destination A/T. I've had them on for a bit over a year on an F350 4x4 and love them. I've had either one ton or 3/4 ton trucks for three decades, and these are the best tires I've had yet. Ride well, good traction in wet/snow/mud, and they are tough.
A close friend works at a tire shop in the rocky cow country in southwest Idaho (Owyhee County), says these are the current top sellers. I can see why.
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Duratracs suck! I had one of the first sets.
Since all tires pack up, a dang Michelin MTS and lockers works as good as any, doesn't hurt your gas milage, and are quiet. Do consider a snow rated tire though. Side lugs are almost useless too except in rocks and logs.
Best way to see how a side lug or typical mud tread works is to leave some poop in your butt crack and run your finger through it.
I go places in my Land Rover with street tires that proves to me, tires mean Doodley Squat.
Its aweful humbling to have your locked and cocked Rubicon slide off a mountain road and have a Subaru drive on past without spinning a tire.
I do agree with the Destination AT and Goodrich AT, but the MT versions don't do anything better.
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Goodyear Wrangler MT/R kevlar. I've got them on my jeep and my f250. Wife says they're noisy, but i'm hard of hearing and I don't like shoveling. I'm not sure what kind of roads you drive but I avoid the duratracs like the plague. I tried them once and they were completely bald/cords showing in under 20000 (~95% gravel driving). From the good reviews I see here I'm guessing they last pretty good on the pavement. Kelly fierce attitude is another good tire.
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I have a set of their Dynapro At3 all terrain tires on my CrewMax Tundra and like them quite well. Good traction and excellent wear so far. And, they have enough sidewall stiffness to handle well when towing my +9k lb. 5th wheel.
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I run BF Goodrich TA Commercial's up here in Alaska. They cost about $165 each, are C rated and have good tread life for the money along with fairly aggressive tread. We see them on lots of guys with plow rigs.
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Cooper Discoverer AT/3, best tire I've owned (that list includes BFG, Mastercraft, Firestone, Goodyeat and Armstrong) Discoverer AT/3
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Cooper Discoverer AT/3, best tire I've owned (that list includes BFG, Mastercraft, Firestone, Goodyeat and Armstrong) Discoverer AT/3 My son had put a set on his F-150 and really liked them, so I put a set on my Dodge Ram, when the factory originals died. Good tires.
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I run BF Goodrich TA Commercial's up here in Alaska. They cost about $165 each, are C rated and have good tread life for the money along with fairly aggressive tread. We see them on lots of guys with plow rigs. I've been seeing a lot of those around here lately. Mostly crew vehicles and pumper pickups. The price makes them tempting as did the price on the duratracs. I just have better luck with bigger lugs in my environment. Maybe the tires I'm running would be shot in 20000 on pavement, I don't know. I think it depends a lot on the conditions.
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toyo's or nitto trail grapplers are the best IMO and i;ve run just about all of them at one time or another, i personally like the trail grapps. bad ass tire for everything
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Having good results with Firestone Destinations here, but I don't push on stuff that hard either.
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And mud and snow is always relative. Might as well be running slicks when it's really deep or slimy.
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BFGoodrich Mud Terrain T/A KM2, run these in 255-80R-17 on my 1-ton dually, best damn farming/pasture/hunting tires I've ever ran, they're 'E' rated 10 plys too.
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Of the tires mentioned, I think the Toyo mud terrains are the best and the BFG mudders second. I can't think of a worse all terrain tire than the BFG all terrains; they load up with mud, are slippery on rocks and seem prone to whining prematurely. I would never own another set but still have buddies that do. We replaced one set recently with Cooper AT/3 which are a much better tire.
If you want Mud tires, however, the Toyos are very good. I have a set of BFGs mudders I run in the winter because I got them cheap and they are good but seem to wear quicker than not.
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I run duratracs on my duramax. I bought them before they were cool and liked the snow and mud performance. I run bfg at on my 4runner. I've had a dozen sets of the bfg....cause I have not been let down yet. I am going to put a set of bfg on my new excursion. I work in Prudhoe bay Alaska and 99% of all rigs here wear duratracs and are way heavier than anything most people drive.
The one I'm surprised didn't get mentioned is the toyo m55.
I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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'Nothen big plus for the Toyo's
Have a set on my Tacoma and will be buying a set for the Wife's 4-Runner before winter.
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